Why men are withdrawing from courtship.

Dalrock ^ | Dalrock

[ansel12]

You don’t need to be so angry, relax and try not to get so personal about all this, it isn’t about you.

We all know what “do well with women means”, it means that women find them sexually attractive during their child bearing years, it isn’t a statement of my beliefs or anything that should be drawing further personal attacks from you.

If the fact angers you, direct it at women, or nature, or whatever, but don’t continue raging and insulting and attacking freepers.

[Lazamataz]

Where do I fit in?

Besides being willing to hit it, of course.

[GeronL]

If I thought it was all about me, I would be a “bad boy”

I am not self-centered and hopeless enough to be a “bad boy”

[ansel12]

That’s what I said in post 149.

“After reading your post, my guess is that you don’t have to work very hard at that, that man that married you and is gone now, is probably it.”

[ansel12]

I already said that also, in post 154.

[Nepeta]

Read her post again, it is not the usual complaining between the sexes and about exes, it is a very harsh condemnation of all men and in a bizarre, even inaccurate, hating way, that seems unique to that poster, as though she doesn’t know men at all, and she makes clear that she never will.

Men don’t get jokes? Men steal from their girlfriends and wives? Men are inept when handling getting cars fixed? Are an embarrassment to their wives in public? Men “trash her personal life”? Men carry “vile diseases”? there are “men who just too inclined to assume ownership of my stuff”?

Where does she live, in some Mad Max, post apocalyptic world? A village of Hell’s Angels?

I live in Ohio.

My longest term relationships (note the plural) have been with engineers, who generally are not characterized as stupid.

Maybe other women wouldn't mind such things as a disinclination to bathe regularly, or not knowing basic table manners, or not getting Mystery Science Theatre jokes (it gets tiresome explaining 70 % of them), or their sitting at the table sipping coffee while I unloaded 100 pound sacks from the car, but my patience was not infinite.

Would you expect a man to put up with a stinky, dirty woman? One who banged their silverware against dishes while eating? One so dense as to not pick up on MST3K? One who sat and did nothing while their menfolk did the nasty work?

And yes, there are men with STDs. I don't need that. Does anyone?

[ansel12]

LOL, you left off the relevant sentence, on purpose.

In post 154 I described you as this.
“”She sounds like a woman who had a relationship once, and then went back into her exclusive ‘self’ world, of the perfection of being alone.””

Then in post 214 you described yourself as this, “”Unlike your sister, I made only one major mistake, and I learned from it.”” —and— “”Men are fine, just not in my personal life.””

I seem to be pretty accurate, and now I will add that you seem to think that men are ‘icky’.

By the way, what were the 100 pound sacks full of?

[Nepeta]

I seem to be pretty accurate, and now I will add that you seem to think that men are ‘icky’.

Ickiness is not exclusively a male trait.

By the way, what were the 100 pound sacks full of?

Cracked corn and soy bean meal.

[central_va]

Legal, safe prostitution has a very civilizing effect on society. It relieves the pressure from older women to perform for their still randy husbands, it allows younger men to buy sexual experiences without the misplaced and deceptive courting. Woman want it all their way and that is just plain ridiculous.

[OldNewYork]

Again, I’ll ask the question, has it helped men and women in the places where it has been legalized?

[ansel12]

I can’t help but notice in many of your posts, that you seem to think men are just icky and repulsive, even disease ridden.

It is good to learn that you are comfortable carrying 100 pound bags of cracked corn and soy bean meal.

[central_va]

Yes, I have been to South America and Europe where it is legal. I think the middle aged older women really appreciate the relief valve. The younger men/boys can concentrate on studies and career building in their early 20’s while not having to carouse around and acting like a deceptive $h!thead to girls just get laid. I have acted like that and wondered why I had to do this in the USA.

[GeronL]

totally ridiculous

[central_va]

Who asked you numbnuts?

[Chickensoup]

YOu sound like you think women, particularly older women are not sexual. I must tell you that you are very very wrong.

[GeronL]

I have less than zero respect for whores and sluts, including male ones. I have nothing but pure hate for those who want to make kids think its a normal and beneficial thing.

[OldNewYork]

Alright, I’ve been to places like that too, and haven’t seen the same thing, nor have I seen any reduction in game-playing and associated nonsense between men and women, nor a reduced divorce rate or any other measure of healthy relationships. And you could hardly point to those places as conservative, so I want to ask, what does being a conservative mean to you?

[central_va]

Look things get a little dry and slow around 50. Fact. From my experience no woman could ever keep up with me sexually in my earlier years or now. I think I am not that unusual or special, I am just a man. Three times a year doesn’t cut it....

[Chickensoup]

You haven’t met the right women. Three times a day or week is what I am hearing from women I know.

[central_va]

Being Conservative means dealing with reality, and sexual relations in this country are totally out of whack. And I blame women, not men, for this.