Skip to comments.Map – Areas Of Probable Power System Collapse: “130 Million Lacking Power For Several Years”
Posted on 12/23/2013 8:58:24 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
In just the last twelve months Congressional members and top level administrators at the Department of Homeland Security have warned of threats to the national power grid so serious that should they occur life in America as we have come to know it would change almost instantly.
Former DHS head Janet Napolitano, in a letter to her successor, advised that a massive and serious cyber attack on the US Homeland is imminent and that a natural disaster the likes of which the nation has never seen is also likely on its way. This was followed up by a comment from House Homeland Security Committee senior member Yvette Clarke (D-NY) who noted that, the likelihood of a severe geo-magnetic event capable of crippling our electric grid is 100%.
Couple those threats with the realistic possibility of a rogue or state-sponsored attack on America by way of a super electro-magnetic pulse weapon, and the odds of a widespread American Blackout increase dramatically.
With our complete dependence on the power grid to maintain the regular flow of commerce, communications, and emergency services, even a short-term grid-down event could lead to serious consequences.
According to a report commissioned by the Department of Homeland Security which cites data from the Oak Ridge National Laboratory, the infrastructure supporting our power grid is so outdated and vulnerable that an attack or natural disaster could lead to an outage scenario of unprecedented scale.
If you live in or around any of these areas you can expect a societal breakdown within 72 hours or less and with traffic systems inoperable and roadways likely jammed, therell likely be no way out.
(Excerpt) Read more at freedomoutpost.com ...
Now I'm not normally the skeptical type but it doesn't make a lot of sense that one of America's foremost military heroes (and, just to keep it semi-logical, also a patriot who loves his country) wouldn't be brave enough to speak out on such a vital subject in public rather than leaking it to a blogger then going into hiding. Anyone who believes this needs the antennas on their tinfoil hat adjusted.
Twenty teams...or cells. Five per team. Each assigned to a geographical area so the whole of the East Coast is covered. One hundred men.
Two men on each team have become proficient with a .308 rifle and scope. They scout the power sub stations in the area.
The entire operation is coordinated by cell phone. When the "Go" signal is received from a central coordinator, each team puts several rounds into the transformers at these stations. Within minutes, the whole of the East Coast is in the dark for a decade.
Any more reason needed to have your state with the capability of removing itself from the grid and supplying local power to customers.
There would be some states severely in the toilet, but others with a net surplus. Finding out who right now would be important.
...knowing that one of the more important power producers in your area had already shut down seven that’s right seven coal fired power plants up to fifteen years early that’s right fifteen years early to avoid problems, not with outages, no, problems with the terrorist at the EPA.
...and if this isn’t a manufactured crises by the terrorists in DC I’ll be really surprised. Time for an all FR PING
Some regions can produce more power than they need, some produce less. In the event that EVERY SINGLE ONE of these connecting transformers FAILED COMPLETELY there would still remain the generating capacity. The regions capable of producing more than they need could simply cut back to produce only what they need. The regions not capable of producing all that need could still produce all that they could, and provide rolling blackouts to make up the difference. It would be inconvenient, but hardly life threatening.
There is simply no scenario where every single transformer, and every single generator in the US gets simultaneously fried, incapable of repair. Never discount the ingenuity of man.
This buffoon believes that DHS is going to initiate a false flag operation...by creating an earthquake in the New Madrid fault area with their new Earthquake Ray Gun? Riiiiight.
And, your Obamacare insurance card is worthless - oh, wait, it's already worthless.
I live outside of Washington, D.C. Two and a half years ago we had a sudden windstorm, a "derecho," that took out power for several days. People who didn't have a full tank of gas couldn't get out of the area because the gas stations weren't working and the DC Metro wasn't running--and besides, many roads were blocked by fallen trees or by accidents that had taken place in the absence of traffic lights. There was no way to get money out of your bank or buy food. The stores began throwing meat and produce away after their generators ran out of fuel. In my pretty doctors-and-lawyers neighborhood, groups of young men of different racial and ethnic groups began roaming up and down the street. I assume they were not looking for friends to come out and have a beer with them; they were strangers and they looked like trouble. It was hot. People who weren't used to living without air conditioning were angry and got into fights. The cops were too overwhelmed to respond. People who needed medication could not get it.
This is what happened after a very short period, only a few days, with the promise of near-term restoration of power. What do you think it would be like if the whole grid went down for a prolonged period, with no promise that it would ever be restored? Watching this event, and the previous one we called "Snowmaggeddon" when I had no power for five days, is what made me a prepper. Twice in just a few years--yes, it makes you think. Or it should.
>> “Problem is that the main transformers would be fried.....no spares” <<
A misperception at best.
You would likely be astounded at how much back-up hardware PG&E has stockpiled in hundreds of locations, and if you believe that they leave their transformers completely unprotected, you would be quite wrong.
Actually, EMP is not a great threat to transformers, but to intelligent switching devices. The lines and transformers are more like the antennas that direct the damage.
Long transmission lines, even if switched out, generate tremendous EMF just from swinging in the wind, and can sometimes even arc across an open switch during a wind storm, which is why out of service lines are often grounded at both ends.
What do you mean? Didn’t they light up the War of 1812 battle fields like a night football game?
If a bird lands on the wires here, we lose electricity but according to the map we have nothing to worry about.
Last time they intentionally shut the power off to avoid too much use during a winter storm, they blew transformers when they were turned back on. Doesn’t give me too much confidence in them getting anything working very quickly in a major fail.
Red and green circles indicate magnitudes of GIC into and out of transformers from the ground.
From the JASON (advisory group)document, "Impacts of Severe Space Weather on the Electric Grid", Page 58.
Yep...a hand operated pump and some tools.
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
In the first map, I could not make out the key to what the green blobs and the red blobs are defining. Do you know?
2008 and 2012 proved that 60 Million people in the USA are just that stupid, and worse.
Another 60 Million are almost that bad.
People in the USA are just stupid, stupid, stupid; fully programmed to compete, but rarely, if ever, to cooperate.
80% of the population live in or around the big cities. That 80% will be practically non-existent within a couple weeks of any major disruption in truck traffic.
People living more than a three-day walk from a major population area, with a couple of months supply of water, food, and firewood would probably be OK.
Thanks for clarification on the red and green blobs!
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
That would be one way of doing it.
Full blown urban warfare will begin well before 72 hours. Gangs in place will not face effective opposition from city government without outside support available. Easy recruitment will expand the ranks quickly.
What is this Common Sense Show? Any good?
“The core of our grid what makes it tick are the transformers that pass power from one node to the next. These often weigh in the hundreds of tons. Most are no longer produced in the United States, so any damage would require the importation of parts or complete units from China.”
You know what the difference is between the Boy Scouts and the US Government?
The Boy Scouts had adult leadership for decades.
Caught it online for the first time on Sunday (Dec. 22)
Hodges was interviewing Jim Garrows (runs Pink Pagoda Girls that rescues young girls from death and abortion in China)and I could barely leave the room to do some chores, he was so fascinating. Among many other topics, he discussed Gatlinburg, TN and Idaho as pertains to an influx of foreigners into the population, and he excoriated Obama; spelled out Obama’s a “plant”—a Manchurian candidate—spoke of Obama’s other half brother who resides in China.
Garrows was asked some questions by Hodges he said he couldn’t comment on...(said he had his lawyer with him at one point.)
I would love to try to download the interview and copy to CD; haven’t heard any other broadcasts on that site, but will definately check them out, if this interview is any indication of what they cover.
My thoughts are about those of limited intelligence who think toilet paper is a marvel from allah and who would do us harm.
Local transformer stations near me are vulnerable to such “minor” things as, oh, fire.
Moonrock worshippers would use fire as well.
One is vulnerable to vehicle entry.
And another can be looked down on from a building nearby.
Reading through the article and comments. Some scary ideas that weren't even on my radar. And that is saying something.
Listen on Sunday night to Hodges—although I can’t imagine it being as riveting as on the 22nd!
Hope you feel better soon!
Merry Christmas and let’s ALL pray for a Happier New Year!!
Funniest damn thing I ever saw:
My home is the rally point for several widow women (affectionately known as “the Q-Tips”) in case of hurricane.
One time, during a power outage associated with tropical storms, I woke up to get ready for night shift. When I got down stairs, what do I see but whole pack of Q-Tips, huddled around and staring intently at one lonely cyalume sitting on an upside down pail.
Lord, I wish I had owned an Iphone that night.
You have to admit, it raises questions.... ;)
I don’t get it ...it seems like all it would take would be about 5 guys per state taking out substations by using shotguns and/or aluminum foil strips on mylar balloons. I’m surprised nobody has done it yet.
It's a question of efficiency.
It's either that, or my live-in MIL volunteering my ass all across the county to "make sure Mrs. So-n-so is alright" :o)
God help us.
uh does the name Katrina mean antying to you?
It didn’t take 72 hours for looting to happen in New orleans, now imagine if the power went out, and STAYED out. They’re killing each other there now like it’s free, and the power is still on.
Oh did New Orleans cease to exist? I missed it. How about Hiroshima and Nagasaki did they ever rebuild?
Two men on each team have become proficient with a .308 rifle and scope.
And these two can act as snipers and keep repair crews at bay....
As for Japan, aren't they irradiated from fukushima now?
And actually Hiroshima and Nagasaki didn't rebuild themselves.
AMERICA rebuilt them.
I have listened to several hours of the archives lying here ill and it’s pretty good stuff. Thanks for turning me on to it. Certainly helping to pass the sick days away. Hope you enjoyed your Christmas!
How far would be a safe distance from a danger zone?
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