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Wonkbook: This quote shows why Obamacare is here to stay (Wisconsin's Ron Johnson surrenders)
The Washington Post's Wonkblog ^ | December 27, 2013 | Ezra Klein and Evan Soltas

Posted on 12/27/2013 2:20:02 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Sen. Ron Johnson, a tea party Republican from Wisconsin, knows that the politics of Obamacare are changing.

“It’s no longer just a piece of paper that you can repeal and it goes away,” he told the New York Times. “There’s something there. We have to recognize that reality. We have to deal with the people that are currently covered under Obamacare.”

Jan. 1 isn't likely to be a glitch-free day for Obamacare. There will be people who try to use their insurance and find they can't, or it's not the plan they meant to buy, or it's not a plan that covers their doctor. But those problems will, eventually, be solved. And their wake will be a game-changing reality: At least 2 million people will have health insurance through Obamacare's exchanges, and more than 4 million people will have health insurance through the law's Medicaid expansion.

The GOP's campaign against Obamacare has been most effective when Republicans could claim, reasonably or not, that the law was taking something away from people: Canceling their plans, or penalizing them for going without insurance, or changing their doctor. But by the end of March, it's likely that at least 8 million to 10 million people will be getting insurance through Obamacare.....

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Health/Medicine; Politics
KEYWORDS: obamac; republicans; romneycare; romneycare4all; romneycare4ever; romneycare4you; teaparty; wisconsin
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To: Aria

Should’ve read your post first. I said almost the exact same thing. Lol


41 posted on 12/27/2013 3:23:44 PM PST by sheana
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To: Black Agnes

I hope you are wrong, but we just do not know yet. And then you may be right. I think 2014 looks better for more democrats going down to defeat due to Obamacare. By 2016, it will be a done deal, too ingrained and impossible to dislodge.


42 posted on 12/27/2013 3:25:44 PM PST by entropy12 (Great republics wither when more people figure out they can get free stuff by electing socialists.)
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To: entropy12

If it were truly and ‘us’ vs. ‘them’ I might think there was hope.

Unfortunately the pubbies are just as much of ‘them’ as ‘they’ are. They’ve got their fingers in too many corrupt payback schemes to ever want to do away with things like they are now.


43 posted on 12/27/2013 3:26:57 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am not clear exactly what Johnson understands, besides his understanding that certain people have obtained insurance coverages under plans set up under the federal and state government exchanges.

He may also understand that they are small in number compared to the millions whose plans and coverages and ability to keep plans and coverages have been negatively impacted as well.

He may also undestand that allowing any plans that exist today as subsidized plans to continue to exist does not require such plans be made permanent (health insurance directly under Medicaid can be provided without them), or that the income levels eligible for a subsdidy have to remain ($9X,000) for a family of four), or that transitions to changes in Medicaid and private insurance can be provided for them WITHOUT preserving anything of Obamacare directly.


44 posted on 12/27/2013 3:31:34 PM PST by Wuli
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To: staytrue; GeronL
Ron Johnson was the “ted cruz” of the senate class of 2010.

The "Ted Cruz" of the 2010 senate class? Ha! In his dreams.

No. Ron Johnson was a fake who (sadly) rode in on the Great Tea Party Wave of 2010. He quickly outed himself. He's officially GOPe.

45 posted on 12/27/2013 3:32:45 PM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

One of the GOP ideas is to give employees tax credits instead of employees paying for insurance.

That is not a subsidy tho the left will try to paint it that way...it will ensure that new markets will be created for individual shoppers which is what conservatives have wanted all along...AND
will lower prices for everyone.

This is part of Ryan’s patient protection act.


46 posted on 12/27/2013 3:40:00 PM PST by what's up
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To: Secret Agent Man
Dead to me, now.

And how!

It only stands to reason that any proposal to replace Obamacare should take into account the circumstances of the currently-enrolled. It certainly doesn't mean that Obamacare can't be repealed.

This guy doesn't sound too intelligent based on this statement.

47 posted on 12/27/2013 3:42:48 PM PST by BfloGuy ( Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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To: luv2ndamend
when that congress critter was caught on tape saying, “ we finally have control over the people”.

Who was that?

48 posted on 12/27/2013 3:59:50 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: BfloGuy
One little soundbyte used.

I'd like to know what else Johnson said.

49 posted on 12/27/2013 4:02:59 PM PST by what's up
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To: plangent
I think everyone is over reacting, and more importantly missing the point. You are right, you aren't until you have a card in your hand. But, you ARE cancelled as soon as you got that letter. And if you are one of the nine million who got cancelled, a repeal won't uncancel you. There needs to be some plan in addition to repeal. The old system was a shitty morass of federal legislation anyway, so it is stupid to hold it up as some panacea.

Repeal plus thoughtful deregulation plus high risk pools plus tax rebates will actually work better than just repeal.

50 posted on 12/27/2013 4:14:07 PM PST by Wayne07
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To: Vince Ferrer

My apologies. I can’t remember his name as it happened the night it passed congress when the rats were celebrating its passage in a DC bar. I will look again to try and find it but maybe a freeper has a recollection of his name?


51 posted on 12/27/2013 4:28:42 PM PST by luv2ndamend (Same party, different letter)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Johnson got comfortable in Washington...


52 posted on 12/27/2013 4:30:14 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: staytrue

“GOPe” is shorthand for “flat-out, yellow-bellied quisling turncoat”. Needs to be dragged out by his heels.


53 posted on 12/27/2013 4:44:43 PM PST by castlebrew (Gun Control means hitting where you're aiming!))
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To: MrShoop
When a real conservative congresscritter promises to rip it out by the roots, I'll send a contribution. No until...
54 posted on 12/27/2013 4:58:20 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Believe the name is pronounced “Rinse Priapism.”


55 posted on 12/27/2013 6:22:42 PM PST by peyton randolph (Tagline copyright in violation of Directive 10-289)
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To: staytrue
"Ron Johnson is was not GOPe"

Now he is.

56 posted on 12/27/2013 6:30:34 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Johnson has fallen to being a crony krapitalist.


57 posted on 12/27/2013 6:32:26 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Black Agnes
"Demographically it’s already a done deal."

The only Strategery left is "Resist we much".

58 posted on 12/27/2013 6:34:28 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: sheana

:-).....great minds...etc. etc. LOL


59 posted on 12/27/2013 9:30:55 PM PST by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: Pox

The left have a lot less arms.


60 posted on 12/27/2013 9:48:59 PM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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