Posted on 01/20/2014 1:42:16 PM PST by mhutcheson
My ancestor - volunteered to fight against the North and Lincoln’s Army - and traveled from Texas to join up. This is what he wrote about his motivation: “Governments are made for man, not man for governments.” ~Junius “June” Kimble, Company “A” 14th Tennessee Volunteers~. He was a hell of a sharpshooter and returned to Texas after the war. Our family gave one defender to the Alamo and another was Secretary and signer of the Constitution of the Republic of Texas. We will go wherever there’s a standing armed militia and a free state. We’re looking for one now.
The Fort was in an inlet to the river, and was built by the Federal Government. There was not even an island there until it was built.
There was no blockade before the war. lol
Should those that fire on American troops be tried for treason and hanged?
Well, then I didn't change the subject then, did I?
Second the motion ...
Whoever builds it owns it. I was not on any state's soil.
http://www.ashevilletribune.com/archives/censored-truths/Morrill%20Tariff.html
I am not sure about the 85% deal but it is documented many places that 90%of US revenue was collected through tariffs and the South took a big hit with the tariffs and it benefited the North, twice some say.
Oh, dear, another injection of the unpleasant truth.
Thank you for the link.
There was no blockade before the war. lol
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Then why were the Union troops there? Playing tiddlywinks?
No longer a delusion, alas.
That bunch in Washington plans to stay. They’ve consolidated their hold on power, and they know their criminality will be prosecuted if they loose their hold on government.
Secession, or as I now see it, “self-determination,” is increasingly the only option left to us.
Times are different; Washington has eviscerated the constitution and surrendered our sovereignty. The United Nations will not let the Federal Government conduct another Civil War and Washington has no moral or legal standing to defy them.
That's a good question — the Constitution defines treason as such: Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort
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Therefore, we should ask: is the firing on of American troops necessarily the waging of war on the several states?
No, obviously not — there are [American] troops who are not even citizens of the States.
In fact, you could raise an army and attack DC, burning it to the ground and definitionally it would not be treason.
Guarding the inlet as always. They weren't stopping any mercantile ships before Sumter was fired on.
I don’t think you understand the concept of “Levying War” . lol
I read most of O'Reilly's Killing Lincoln. Based on what you've indicated, it doesn't surprise me that pro-big federal government O'Reilly presented Lincoln as a hero.
Everything you say is absolutely true, Lincoln was no saint, and poor Irish Union conscripts did not fight to free black people. Lincoln even let Union slave states keep their slaves for awhile which was both brilliant politically and more than a little cynical.
But in the end of the day Lincoln freed the slaves. History looks at results, not character, methods, or intentions. In the end, Lincoln freed a race of people from bondage and put an end to an unambiguously savage and evil institution. Because of this, everything he and his army did is justified.
Lincoln did what he had to do to save some collective abstrtaction “the Union”. He is repsonsible for the death of what would today be approx 7,000,000 Americans. Plus many more wounded and maimed. Makes al qaeda look like pikers.
I hope one day we look at abortion the way we today look at slavery. Something evil our ancestors did out of ignorance.
Given that the federal government has moved to be in a position where it denies the states almost all sovereignty (read the dissenting opinions of the SB 1070 case) and looks to be open to assisting in an invasion (termed 'amnesty' or 'immigration reform') it could well be argued that the federal government is itself such an enemy of the several states.
bove was written by the great southerner Thomas Jefferson in 1776.
Please provide the formal document what was stated at the time by the states of the south wishing to leave.... let them speak for themselves and declare their cause in full in there own words
Yes, a Union controlled by rich oligarchs committed to the destruction of personal liberty. Goldman Sachs anyone?
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