The Jewish Question

Israpundit ^ | April 17, 2014 | Alex Markovsky

[ansel12]

Until it is changed, I have no reason to think it isn’t accurate.

[Kenny Bunk]

In fact, the (communist) regime was marked by anti-Semitism from its onset.

Although a majority of the posts in the earliest Soviet Nomenklatura may have certainly been held by Jews, the above statement is very accurate.

In fact, whenever there was a particularly dirty job to be done (e.g., The Liquidation of the Kulaks, The starvation and deportations of the Ukraine, etc. etc., the top Soviets, many of them Jewish, made damn sure those directly responsible for carrying out particularly heinous "field operations" were identifiable Jews, too.

Reason? They planned it that way to feed off the endemic Russian anti-semitism of long standing, as in the pogroms of the Czars, to encourage the peasants to somehow shift the blame for their troubles "on the Jews" and not on the Party!

In some ideological way, this was part of the Soviet anti-religion campaign, conducted by Jews in the Soviet hierarchy who chose ideology over their ancestral faith, which they consciouslky thought to destroy.

Post WWII, when the Soviets were subjugating Eastern Europe, they used the same tactics.

Warning: Some Jewish scholars documented this phenomenon many years ago. However, it is not wise to share the info in American liberal Jewish circles, or you'll never eat lunch in this town again!.

[justiceseeker93]

My parents told me that American Jews of their generation considered Republicans antisemitic because the Democrats in the 1930s tried to lift immigration quotas to allow Jews from Europe to enter America and the Republicans blocked them.

Another of those pro-'Rat, pro-Roosevelt myths that seem to get passed down from generation to generation in too many Jewish families!

Fact is that Democrats had such wide majorities in Congress following the Roosevelt landslide in 1932 and continuing through the remainder of the 1930s (although Republicans did make significant gains in the 1938 mid term elections) that Republicans couldn't block anything, even if they tried. The so-called "isolationist" movement, which was associated with restricting immigration, was bipartisan.

[Lurking Libertarian]

I was careful to add that I was repeating what I was told, and hadn’t verified it. You may be quite right.

[x]

Why permanent? Nothing was written in stone by that 1936 election, though it might seem that way to you now. History didn't have to unroll as it did. In the 40s African-Americans were equally divided in identifying with the two parties, though they gave more votes to FDR and his Democrat successors. Still, Eisenhower and Nixon pulled in over a third of Black voters, so there was room for events to develop differently than they did.

I didn't claim to give a reason why Jews vote Democrat. That would entail a very long discussion. My point was just that the writer somehow assumed that Jews would be so turned off by Obama that they'd vote against him. But people who have been voting for Democrats for decades, people who voted for Mondale, Dukakis, Kerry and other Democrats down through the years aren't going to look at Obama as the author does. Why is that somehow controversial? And do we have to add Blacks and Jews to Catholics and Mormons on your list?

[ansel12]

The Jewish vote is the way it is and has been for far longer than a 100 years, because they are liberals.

You can’t ignore the facts about blacks for instance, until 1932, they always voted republican, in 1936 they made an instant, and permanent switch.

In 1932 the black vote being republican, gave the democrats the unsurprising 23%, and in 1936, they made the instant and permanent switch, suddenly going 71% democrat, and staying there.

Yep, they sure did give more votes to the democrats, that is what I said, the fact that it took a few years for party registration to better reflect that instant switch of parties, is meaningless.

Up to 1932, blacks always voted republican, in 1932 FDR got 23% of the black vote, and then the instant switch was made in 1936.

[x]

Ha! Ha!

Look at the next chart on the same site:

Notice party identification in the 1940s. It took some time for that to change.

The Jewish vote is the way it is and has been for far longer than a 100 years, because they are liberals.

A little less than 100 years. Harding(1920) scored a plurality of the Jewish vote. Hughes (1916) didn't do so bad either. What we call the "Jewish vote" is made up mostly of Jews whose families came from Eastern Europe. The older German Jewish population leaned Republican in the days of TR and Taft, and Sephardic (Middle Eastern) Jews also come from a different culture with different values.

That's life in these United States, though. Different people have different values. It takes time for them to come to understand things in the same way -- if they ever do. But somehow or other the country has managed to survive and prosper.

[ansel12]

Good Lord man, I mentioned how meaningless taking a few years to adjust party registration was, you post cling to it like a life raft, as though it changes the black vote.

Even Reagan took more than a decade to get around to switching his party registration.

What counts, is the FACTS of the black vote.

Then you keep trying to create a fake Jewish vote, it has never gone republican, at least not since we started getting Jews here in any numbers, in 1880, and we don't have presidential voting records for them before that.

[Delacon]

It was ok but it didn’t bring any new revelations to the table. Just frustrations we already knew. Here is my opinion. Jewish people throughout history and across the globe have been singled out and persecuted more than any other people. Singled out being the operative word. There is a wish to be treated like everyone else. To be part of society without having to give up their Jewishness. They feel that they will be vulnerable to persecutions in a democracy that places freedom over conformity such as we cons struggle for. With a government that emphasizes conformity, everyone is treated exactly alike on all levels. If everyone is just a number, you dont care if they are jewish. Everyone jewish or not gets their daily allotted government handout. Nobody can turn to the jews and say “you rigged the system” because everyone is tied to the system getting the exact same things. In short, jews want to be treated like everyone else even if that means we get a government that forces us to all to be treated equal. IE universal healthcare, housing, education, everything.

[Delacon]

I dont think anyone was claiming that the jews lost the election for us but it is confounding why they didn’t vote more often for Romney.

[ansel12]

This is a conservative political site, this is about voting and politics not “different spiritual paths”, take your religious and racial bigotry elsewhere.

[ansel12]

I haven’t seen anyone blaming Jews for GOP losses, what are the quotes and which posts?

Conservatives do talk about who makes up the left, and how those groups vote, for instance the Jewish vote, the black vote, the Hispanic vote, and many other categories, it is a fundamental part of politics and political discussions.

If you are a conservative, why would you want to conceal such facts and voting data, how can we run campaigns if we don’t know such things?

Why are you so obsessed only with race and “different spiritual paths” instead of politics?

[ansel12]

Everyone involved in politics, for instance this political forum that is based on politics and political activism, discusses and has to discuss the voting of groups and categories, from veterans to while males, to single women to Jews and Evangelicals, and on and on.

You do realize that we are discussing voting and politics don’t you?

Do you get hysterical like this when we discuss the Evangelical vote?