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The Jewish Question
Israpundit ^ | April 17, 2014 | Alex Markovsky

Posted on 05/20/2014 12:44:30 PM PDT by Pharmboy

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To: Jewbacca
Karl was, indeed, baptized Lutheran at a young age, was reasonably active in church, and had zero Jewish education.

As a very young man, he was actually pious. It was supposedly the "Doktors Klub" at university that pulled him away.

81 posted on 05/20/2014 7:51:29 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: SJackson; All
Goldwater, like Kerry, would only be Jewish enough to be killed by the Reich.

Actually, Goldwater, who had a Jewish father and was brought up as a Christian, had many social contacts with Jewish people in Phoenix growing up, some of whom remained friends for life.

The truth is, as you said, he would be (more than) Jewish enough to be killed by the Reich. Yet, immediately following his Republican nomination for president in 1964, CBS TV totally concocted a smear story about him, announcing that neo-Nazi groups in Europe were celebrating for Barry Goldwater. Shows that MSM was controlled by biased lefty loons as far back as 1964!

82 posted on 05/20/2014 7:57:57 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: ansel12
I can find the 1880s Jewish socialism push, and their involvement in promoting the left in their big city politics...

Really, you can find an 1880s Jewish socialism push (in the US)? Eastern European Jews didn't arrive in the US in significant numbers until the first major pogrom in Russia in 1880. Earlier German Jews in the US were not particularly big on socialism. They were too busy racking up fortunes by being capitalists.

83 posted on 05/20/2014 8:17:23 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: ansel12

You obviously misunderstand libertariaism, and I have neither the time nor inclination to bring you up to speed.


84 posted on 05/20/2014 8:26:02 PM PDT by pbmaltzman
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To: justiceseeker93

Sure, it is easy to find lots about the late 1800s socialist movement by Jews in america.

“Jewish Socialism in the United States, 1880-1920
The birth and growth of American Jewish Socialism.
American Jewish Socialism arose in the 1880s with mass Jewish immigration from Eastern Europe, but it was not simply a Russian import.”


85 posted on 05/20/2014 8:27:27 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: pbmaltzman

Actually I understand it quite well, it is how I can penetrate the BS they use, and alter, depending on which audience they are trying to misinform.


86 posted on 05/20/2014 8:29:55 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: Pharmboy

You do point out that Orthodox Jews tend to vote Republican. My favorite talk show hosts are Jewish, Michael Medved and Mark Levine, who I find to have a better understanding of world history and the Constitution than Limbaugh and Hannity.

Today conservative Christians seem to support the security of Israel more than Reform Jews. Would it be fair to refer to Reform Jews as JINOs? Like liberal “Christians” (see Trinity United “Church of Christ” in Chicago) who use their churches and synagogues for social activist leftist political purposes instead of houses of worship.


87 posted on 05/20/2014 9:19:04 PM PDT by Rainier1789 (My Constitution has a 2nd and 10th Amendment)
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To: SJackson

Didn’t say or suggest Marx’s religious conversion was invalid. Just said IMO he remains an ethnic Jew because, and I guess I have to repeat myself here, being Jewish is more than a religion.


88 posted on 05/20/2014 9:19:24 PM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: justiceseeker93
...had Marx's parents and Marx lived in Germany during the Nazi era, all of them would have been considered "Jews" according to the Nuremberg Laws. The Nazis considered people to be Jewish on the basis of genetics...

You made my point very well. But the Nazis are not the only ones who would have considered them to be Jewish.

89 posted on 05/20/2014 9:22:13 PM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: ansel12
Did his Jewish mother switch religions?

It would appear so. Well after she had him.

Gotta go along to get along, now that Prussia rules the roost, dontcha know!

But the relevant point is, Karl was no Jew, except in the most technical and irrelevant sense.

90 posted on 05/21/2014 12:08:27 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

If his mother switched religions, then Wikipedia needs to be corrected.


91 posted on 05/21/2014 12:11:24 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: ansel12
That would seem to be the case.

But it looks like the Edit tab is disabled! LOL! Except for registered users.

So, I suppose one could take the trouble to register and perform the necessary task.

They do appreciate footnotes at Wikipedia. There turns out to be Google Books search result that claims Henriette delayed her conversion to Lutheranism until after her father died. The Theorist's Mother, by Andrew Parker, page 107.

92 posted on 05/21/2014 12:50:15 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: ansel12
Then why doesn't that apply to Hispanics who switch from Catholic to Protestant? While not a switch of religions, it is a religious switch, and it largely overcomes culture.

Switching religions immerses one in the culture of the new congregation. The decision to switch also reflects a pre-existing change in viewpoint.

97 posted on 05/21/2014 3:57:45 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: sf4dubya

I don’t consult the Torah to form my opinions so I have no need to argue with it.


98 posted on 05/21/2014 7:13:58 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: PapaBear3625

You just totally contradicted your post 70.

By the way, what do you think accounts for the Hispanic change when instead of going to the Catholic Christian church, they start to go across the street to a Protestant Christian church?


99 posted on 05/21/2014 8:24:38 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: sf4dubya

Oy vey, don’t carry your grudges into new threads and dragging in old arguments that you claim and creating false positions for people, and the Jewish vote has never gone republican.


100 posted on 05/21/2014 8:29:08 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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