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The Ammunition Bubble: Substitute 12 guage for .22?
Gun Watch ^ | 8 June, 2014 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 06/09/2014 6:38:45 AM PDT by marktwain

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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

If an MRAP heads up my drive, I’m not staying to discuss the situation.

I’m set up for criminals and animal control, not an insurrection.

I’d love a 50 cal but a .308 is good for 500 yards.


41 posted on 06/10/2014 1:45:44 PM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: dangerdoc

Between .50 and .308 is personal taste, and I would never suggest otherwise.

However, the MRAP thing is now so much at the local police level that it has become irrational. They might decide to smash someone’s home down at 3am because of an unpaid parking ticket by a “known gun owner”.

Still, I agree, that bugging out, *if* that is an option, is the best one. But in the time being, if a 21 foot long, 22 ton vehicle attempts to drive over a relatively small trench covered with plywood, it might provide a respectable length of time to gather up your cloak and go.


42 posted on 06/10/2014 3:51:19 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: Fellow Traveler

“Be careful. 45 Colt is not the same diameter as 45-70. One is. 451 the other is .458”

Thanks for that tip! I would have realized it before buying anything, but it’s good that you point it out.

I think, given that, that I’ll stick with .44 magnum for the handgun round, and 45/70 for the high-powered rifle. That way there’s no chance of loading the wrong bullet.

Have a good one!


43 posted on 06/11/2014 5:56:36 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: Tijeras_Slim; RedMDer; fireman15; marktwain

Thanks for all the replies guys. I appreciate all the information. I definitely want to try the cut and wax load


44 posted on 06/11/2014 11:38:29 AM PDT by Rannug ("all enemies, foreign and domestic")
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To: Rannug; All

There are really two techniques there.

One is the “cut” improvisation, where the shell is cut so that the entire front end of the shot cartridge goes out the end of the bore.

Second is the “wax” improvisation where shot is mixed with molten wax and the shot cup filled with the mixture, which is then allowed to harden.

I believe the “wax” method to be superior, but it takes a little more effort. It has the advantage that the loads can be made to feed and eject just like any other shotgun load. In the “cut” method, the cartridges become much more fragile.


45 posted on 06/11/2014 6:18:11 PM PDT by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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