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Hobby Lobby opinion may come down tomorrow
American Thinker ^ | 6-29-14 | Rick Moran

Posted on 06/29/2014 3:33:39 PM PDT by ReformationFan

One of the most important religious freedom cases heard before the Supreme Court in a generation may see an opinion handed down tomorrow.

Hobby Lobby, a Michigan based company, is challenging the Obamacare contraception mandate on the grounds that paying for coverage would violate their religious beliefs.

Cleveland Plain Dealer:

Tomorrow, the Supreme Court is likely to release its decision in Sebelius v. Hobby Lobby, a widely anticipated ruling expected to have far-reaching implications for businesses.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: hobbylobby; prolife; religiousfreedom; religiousliberty; rickmoran; scotus
I like this part:

"The fundamental right of women to plan when they will have a family..." is not dependent on getting free or almost free contraception. That's ridiculous. Are we to believe that a woman's rights are violated if she has to pay for something rather than get it free? Nonsense.

Perhaps it will be someone's "right" to own a Mercedes someday.

These are the sort of nonsensical arguments advanced by the other side in this debate. And they're designed to distract from the core issue; are individual business owners' conscience to be dictated by government? Or belief in a higher power?

1 posted on 06/29/2014 3:33:40 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan

Those experts in the know believe that Obama will get a big win against Hobby Lobby and the owners of Hobby Lobby will be on the hook for millions in IRS penalties.

I hope not.


2 posted on 06/29/2014 3:40:44 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: ReformationFan

Apparently Reuters did a push-poll to prove that nobody but Neanderthals takes the side of Hobby Lobby.


3 posted on 06/29/2014 3:41:36 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: KeyLargo

what experts?


4 posted on 06/29/2014 3:42:16 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: ReformationFan

Hobby Lobby is fighting to keep each and everyone of us that don’t support murdering babies from becoming unwilling participants, (please pray about this)

When a nation reaches a point where its people collectively empower those that oppose God directly and then require his people to surrender their beliefs to peacefully coexist, when this kind of government sanctioned evil becomes the law of the land making murderers out of all of us

This is when a nation is judged,

I don’t think whats coming can be stopped, but we can pray to rebuke this evil administration and its followers, we have that authority if we would only claim it,

This is a spiritual battle, and enough people must realize what is happening here and join the battle in the spirit.

“Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.” Matthew 18:18

“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” Ephesians 6:12


5 posted on 06/29/2014 3:42:46 PM PDT by captmar-vell
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To: ReformationFan

Well they said the SC would hand down its decision before the end of June, so ... that would have to be tomorrow.


6 posted on 06/29/2014 3:43:59 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: ReformationFan

The Roberts court is not friendly to freedom. It rots from the head.


7 posted on 06/29/2014 3:49:09 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: ReformationFan

I predict it will be a 5-4 decision.

LOL.


8 posted on 06/29/2014 4:01:00 PM PDT by savedbygrace (But God!)
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To: ReformationFan

If not struck down the principle established is: your rights are violated when something is not provided to you without charge.


9 posted on 06/29/2014 4:11:09 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Every way the Supreme Court could rule in Hobby Lobby
06/28/14 09:43 AM—Updated 06/28/14 03:41 PM
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By Irin Carmon

“There’s no employer mandate, so there’s no substantial burden. The theory that five of the Justices seemed to take most seriously at oral argument was Martin Lederman’s, which is that there is no “substantial burden” on religious exercise at stake because the government isn’t forcing Hobby Lobby to provide health insurance in the first place – or as Lederman puts it, “there’s no employer mandate.” If there’s no government force, except paying a fine, there’s no RFRA violation.

Justice Kennedy seemed highly intrigued by this theory, which was introduced early on by the female Justices. “Assume hypothetically that it’s a wash—that the employer would be in about the same position if he paid the penalty and the … employee went out and got the insurance and that the employee’s wages were raised slightly … and that it’s a wash so far as the employer [is] concerned,” he asked Paul Clement, arguing for Hobby Lobby. “Then what would your case be?”

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/every-way-the-supreme-court-could-rule-hobby-lobby

“Chief Justice John Roberts could be the “swing” vote as he was two years ago when siding with the court’s more liberal members to allow the law’s “individual mandate” to go into effect.”

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/29/politics/scotus-obamacare-contraception/index.html


10 posted on 06/29/2014 4:12:47 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: ReformationFan

I predict a win for the Constitution and for the rule of law. The right to the free exercise of religion is the most basic of our God-given freedoms. A woman’s right to free stuff on demand is nowhere in the Constitution (except, of course, in the penumbra). Unless Roberts in being blackmailed to crush freedom, and gutless enough to succumb again to those personal threats, there is no chance at all that he will rule with the big government liberals. What could go wrong?


11 posted on 06/29/2014 4:13:49 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: KeyLargo

>> Justice Kennedy seemed highly intrigued by this theory, which was introduced early on by the female Justices. “Assume hypothetically that it’s a wash—that the employer would be in about the same position if he paid the penalty and the … employee went out and got the insurance and that the employee’s wages were raised slightly … and that it’s a wash so far as the employer [is] concerned,”

Why would the employee’s wages be raised?


12 posted on 06/29/2014 4:16:14 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: ReformationFan

If they lose they should shut down their business and fire all their employees.


13 posted on 06/29/2014 4:16:54 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: ReformationFan

I have become a Hobby Lobby fan. I love companies that stand on principal. As for Sebelius, the upside is that her wrinkled a** was out of Kansas for a few years. The Great OZ has spoken.


14 posted on 06/29/2014 4:31:41 PM PDT by WyCoKsRepublican
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To: savedbygrace
I predict it will be a 5-4 decision.

Since you gave it a (probable) guess, I'll venture 6-3 against HL.
15 posted on 06/29/2014 4:32:17 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero

That would be absurd. It would establish the principle that you have a “right” to anything and everything - without charge.


16 posted on 06/29/2014 4:34:49 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: ReformationFan

Not may. Will come down tomorrow. Last day of the term.


17 posted on 06/29/2014 4:38:37 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Ray76
That would be absurd.

Yes, a 6-3 decision against HL would definitely be absurd. But that's my guess anyway.
18 posted on 06/29/2014 4:40:44 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: ReformationFan

May come down tomorrow?

How dumb of a headline. If it doesn’t come down tomorrow then it won’t until October. Tomorrow is the last day for the Supreme Court this year.


19 posted on 06/29/2014 4:44:30 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: KeyLargo

The Supreme Court had been 100 percent correct on ALL of their decisions in 2014.......Please keep up the trend.


20 posted on 06/29/2014 4:45:36 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: KeyLargo

If hobby loses all their employees will become part time to avoid penalties.


21 posted on 06/29/2014 6:08:42 PM PDT by scbison
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To: scbison

FLASH ALERT:

HOBBY LOBBY WINS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


22 posted on 06/30/2014 7:18:43 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: scbison

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/christinerousselle/2014/06/30/burwell-v-hobby-lobby-decision-n1857253


23 posted on 06/30/2014 7:34:14 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Ray76

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/christinerousselle/2014/06/30/burwell-v-hobby-lobby-decision-n1857253


24 posted on 06/30/2014 7:34:32 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Jeff Chandler

Experts were wrong.

Whoo Hoo!

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/christinerousselle/2014/06/30/burwell-v-hobby-lobby-decision-n1857253


25 posted on 06/30/2014 7:35:15 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

AWESOME!


26 posted on 06/30/2014 7:38:28 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: tanknetter
Ginsburg has written a 19 page Dissent, not yet available.
27 posted on 06/30/2014 7:43:19 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: scbison
Ginsburg has written a 19 page Dissent, not yet available.
28 posted on 06/30/2014 7:45:02 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: ReformationFan
Ginsburg has written a 19 page Dissent, not yet available.
29 posted on 06/30/2014 7:47:19 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

Actually, it was Ginsburg’s clerks who wrote the dissent. The question is whether she was actually awake enough to read, comprehend and endorse it ...


30 posted on 06/30/2014 7:50:44 AM PDT by tanknetter
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