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VANITY: Anybody take the dive in getting a Nissan Leaf?
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Posted on 08/22/2014 8:50:27 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal

So the wife & I are thinking on taking the plunge. I commute about 75 miles a day round trip to work & back. Based on that, I pay over $410 in gas/month on a paid car that is just getting more expensive to maintain.

Any other FReepers who are owners care to give your experiences?

Is it worth it?


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Travel
KEYWORDS: electricvehicles; leaf; nissan; nissanleaf; taxincentives
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

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41 posted on 08/22/2014 9:09:04 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Never heard of that—I’ll check it out.
Thank you!


42 posted on 08/22/2014 9:09:42 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Bible Summary in a few verses: John 14:6, John 6:29, Romans 10:9-10)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal; Georgia Girl 2

Seriously? LOL!


43 posted on 08/22/2014 9:10:44 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Bible Summary in a few verses: John 14:6, John 6:29, Romans 10:9-10)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

from what I’ve experienced, the Leaf would be a great 3rd vehicle but not a good choice for anything mission critical. If you drive 25 miles to work and can charge there, it might be a good commuter.

We were thinking of getting an electric for local, daily driving but it would be useless for just about everything else. I feel it almost makes sense to get a subcompact for that purpose too.


44 posted on 08/22/2014 9:11:41 AM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: paterfamilias
The Leaf would cost you about 30-37K before Federal Tax break.

If you look at cars.com, Nissan Leaves are selling at under $20K. Probably after the tax break, but still nowhere near the 30K you are suggesting. OP is in Atlanta, probably an ideal location as an all-electric should be okay in heavy traffic unless the AC stays on all of the time.
45 posted on 08/22/2014 9:11:41 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you're litigating against nuns, you've probably done something wrong."-Ted Cruz)
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To: dfwgator

I could care a less about the “environmental impact”. This is pure economics.


46 posted on 08/22/2014 9:11:53 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Bible Summary in a few verses: John 14:6, John 6:29, Romans 10:9-10)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
How often (how many miles) between battery pack changes? You need to amortize that across the life of the car, too.

Did the math for a Prius-owning "buddy" of mine who claimed I hated Gaia since I drove an F250 diesel. By the time you account for the environmental impact of making his initial batteries, and replacing them the recommended two times for my 270k miles (every 100k miles), my super duty caused less total environmental impact than his Prius would have over the same usage.

Plus, since unibody cars are rattle traps and headed to the scrap yard by 100k miles many times, you should throw in disposal/recycling energy costs...

47 posted on 08/22/2014 9:12:18 AM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

How much does a Leaf cost?

The The Ford Fusion Energi plug-in hybrid sedan gets the equivalent of about 100 mpg and no limitations on range. Also not a bad looking car.


48 posted on 08/22/2014 9:12:38 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Did a polar bear really go up to them and give them a hug?


49 posted on 08/22/2014 9:13:00 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

That’s fine. More power to you.


50 posted on 08/22/2014 9:13:59 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: smokingfrog

After all the incentives, it’s looking to be around $22,000-$24,000 depending on the dealer. I’m not looking for the luxury model.


51 posted on 08/22/2014 9:14:54 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Bible Summary in a few verses: John 14:6, John 6:29, Romans 10:9-10)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Check the resale value, from what I’ve heard they don’t hold their value at all. It may end up being more expensive then a small economy car.

A new Leaf costs about $30k and gets 100mpg best case. A Honda Fit costs about $20k and gets 40 mpg all the time.


52 posted on 08/22/2014 9:18:03 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: 5thGenTexan
Plus, since unibody cars are rattle traps and headed to the scrap yard by 100k miles many times, you should throw in disposal/recycling energy costs...

I prefer full frame cars ('90s Caprice/Roadmaster, Crown Vic), but unibody REAL Dodge Darts, 3800 Buick/Pontiac/Olds, Ford Tauruses, etc. easily can get 200K+, not to mention the some of the stuff from Japan.


53 posted on 08/22/2014 9:18:44 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you're litigating against nuns, you've probably done something wrong."-Ted Cruz)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Look at some of the videos. This thing is great. Its going to be a hoot to drive around. :-)


54 posted on 08/22/2014 9:19:45 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: driftdiver
Cars.com Leaf pricing
55 posted on 08/22/2014 9:20:24 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you're litigating against nuns, you've probably done something wrong."-Ted Cruz)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Yeah I’d be pulled over in a heartbeat trying to take my 1 year old for a ride in an improvised car-seat :)


56 posted on 08/22/2014 9:23:21 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Bible Summary in a few verses: John 14:6, John 6:29, Romans 10:9-10)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Battery cars don’t make economic sense IMO. In the long run they are more expensive. They cost more upfront and have lower resale value. Replacement of the batteries isn’t economically feasible.


57 posted on 08/22/2014 9:25:08 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

98 Dodge Durango...we get 9 mpg city...20 hwy....BUT, I can go anywhere on or off road, haul whatever I need, and lay down rubber and smoke like a NASCAR Driver...hehehehe!

Totally worth it!

Also have 91 Saturn that gets decent mileage and is easy to fix. Considering a newer small car...mrs p6 likes the Soul...Ford Fiesta or CMAX...in the hills of PA nothing gets manufacturers mpg claims.


58 posted on 08/22/2014 9:25:31 AM PDT by prisoner6 (Stop the Stupid)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
Driving here in Arizona, it'd be suicidal to get something like that. Nothing deters many AZers from driving their Ford f250s, 350s, etc.

When I get my kids through school and finally deport myself to a small European city permanently, I am going to get a little Fiat.

59 posted on 08/22/2014 9:26:07 AM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

How much does car cost? What is expected range and cost comparison to gasoline engine. You need to do a cost benefit analysis to determine if this is a good idea.

You can buy cars today which get 40 mpg for quite a bit less than a Nissan Lief and you also need to look a resale values, battery replacement costs etc.


60 posted on 08/22/2014 9:26:15 AM PDT by billyboy15
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