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How Social Media Silences Debate
NYT ^ | 8-26-2014 | Claire Cain Miller

Posted on 08/27/2014 10:13:55 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot

The Internet might be a useful tool for activists and organizers, in episodes from the Arab Spring to the Ice Bucket Challenge. But over all, it has diminished rather than enhanced political participation, according to new data.

Social media, like Twitter and Facebook, has the effect of tamping down diversity of opinion and stifling debate about public affairs. It makes people less likely to voice opinions, particularly when they think their views differ from those of their friends, according to a report published Tuesday by researchers at Pew Research Center and Rutgers University.

(snip) The Internet, it seems, is contributing to the polarization of America, as people surround themselves with people who think like them and hesitate to say anything different. Internet companies magnify the effect, by tweaking their algorithms to show us more content from people who are similar to us.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: facebook; peckingparty; socialistnetworking; twitter
Obama lamented the Balkanization of the media for the 'extremists' views' (cough)rightwing(cough).
1 posted on 08/27/2014 10:13:55 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot
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To: Sir Napsalot

Total BS.

Maybe the dumbest thing I have read in a long while.

Facts have neither a conservative or liberal bias.


2 posted on 08/27/2014 10:19:38 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: RedStateRocker

I’ve been unfriended by a lot of liberals. And it kinda makes my wife cringe when our daughter in law posts something pro-homosexual marriage and I fire both barrels.

I take very seriously the axiom that all it takes for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing. I NEVER let pro-homosexual marriage, Pro-Islam and other statements go on facebook uninhibited. And because I know more and have at my fingertips far more info than most of these facebook nitwits, I shut them down pretty hard.

It’s especially fun when the liberal “alpha dogs” jump in and try to take me on. They simply don’t have truth and the facts on their side, but are not used to someone who will fight back and knows what he’s talking about. Too many of them are like the upper classman arguing with freshmen. When a real adult steps in against them they go down fast - and often gloriously.

We all should be doing it.


3 posted on 08/27/2014 10:29:23 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

duh!....why do you think Liberals invented it?


4 posted on 08/27/2014 10:33:59 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Sir Napsalot; All
It's absolutely true! Nowadays employers, when considering a new hire, routinely monitor slackbook and other social media platforms...does anyone believe that 'controversial' comments, whether true or not, (or, particularly if they are true), don't count against the prospective job seeker? This alone has a true damping effect on political participation.
5 posted on 08/27/2014 10:35:35 AM PDT by notdownwidems (Shellback pollywogs! U.S.S. William H. Standley, CG-32 1977-80)
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To: RedStateRocker

Social media stifles debate by creating bubble chambers. I have had liberal friends and relatives unfriend me because they were not interested in debate, let alone correcting inaccuracies in their memes that I pointed out.


6 posted on 08/27/2014 10:57:50 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
I have had liberal friends and relatives unfriend me because they were not interested in debate, let alone correcting inaccuracies in their memes that I pointed out.

I recently unfriended a person, not facedbook but real life, because she admitted she was ignorant and saw no reason to change.

Life's too short.


7 posted on 08/27/2014 11:07:10 AM PDT by 867V309 (Don't tread on me, bro)
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To: Sir Napsalot
Mainstream media tries to convince people that they are weird if they have traditional conservative values.

Social media has informed many, many millions of normal humans that they are not abnormal, as the communist MSM and academia have insisted. In fact, the real abnormals are a minute percentage of the population, deploying all kinds of smoke and mirrors trying to terrorize the vast majority into embracing their sick, warped, bizarre, liberal behaviors.

People are waking up, thanks to the internet, and many of them are 'unfriending' even family members who think differently on the most critical issues. It's OK. Blood really is not thicker than values and principles.

8 posted on 08/27/2014 11:09:57 AM PDT by meadsjn
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To: Sir Napsalot
"The researchers also found that those who use social media regularly are more reluctant to express dissenting views in the offline world."

"Dissenting views"? A curious expression. Dissenting from what? And who determines what a "dissenting view" is?
9 posted on 08/27/2014 11:15:19 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: RedStateRocker

Facts have a definite conservative bias, going by the definitions of “conservative” and “liberal”. Conservatives may not always be right, but liberals are always wrong. (This is because everything is political to liberals.)

The article’s thesis is definitely hogwash (liberals have pestered conservatives since Eve ate the apple), but one could reasonably argue that the Internet encourages impressionable teenagers to engage in stupid liberal behaviors.


10 posted on 08/27/2014 11:20:07 AM PDT by Objective Scrutator (All liberals are criminals, and all criminals are liberals)
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To: Objective Scrutator

Are people less likely to express “dissenting views” on social media than in real-life, face-to-face situations, as the research claims? That seems unlikely to me. The Internet is notorious for inducing people to go “overboard” and say things they would not say face-to-face. So I suspect there is some sort of agenda behind this research.


11 posted on 08/27/2014 11:24:04 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Steve_Seattle

No need to spell out. In research/university studies, there is only the PC doctrine.

Most don’t want ‘debate’, they just want to ‘convert’ your pov.


12 posted on 08/27/2014 11:25:42 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: RedStateRocker

It’s really not BS. Facts have absolutely nothing to do with what they’re writing about here.

There’s social pressure to which most people succumb to express currently popular opinions on social matters, especially, now, gay marriage. Daring to contradict a statement about the wonderfulness of gay marriage instantly earns the poster a ‘homophobic’ label. You will see friends and sometimes family “unfriend” you, or argue, however irrationally, with you.


13 posted on 08/27/2014 11:32:41 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Steve_Seattle
You're absolutely correct, the article is just whining that conservatives want to isolate themselves from liberals (but if liberals want to isolate themselves from conservatives, that's A-OK!). The NYT, being liberals, would prefer that all online communities organize themselves like 4chan, where people can post without a username (thus encouraging consequence free trolling) and are encouraged to commit suicide. There are countless other peer-encouraged suicides linked to the Internet, whereas before the Internet peer-encouraged suicides usually happened in secretive, difficult-to-access cults.

The Internet, if anything, gives people the perfect platform to abuse others without remorse. Most people simply don't want to engage with anonymous people unless they can find common ground with them, but that's also the case in real life. The people who do want to engage with anonymous people (with no common ground) generally want to do so maliciously, and you are much less likely to face the consequences of your malice on the Internet.

14 posted on 08/27/2014 11:42:50 AM PDT by Objective Scrutator (All liberals are criminals, and all criminals are liberals)
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To: EDINVA
"There’s social pressure to which most people succumb to express currently popular opinions on social matters, especially, now, gay marriage. Daring to contradict a statement about the wonderfulness of gay marriage instantly earns the poster a ‘homophobic’ label."

But is that pressure greater on social media than in person-to-person interactions? I don't think so, unless the person-to-person interaction involves only one or two people who you know and trust.
15 posted on 08/27/2014 12:19:41 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Steve_Seattle

oh, I think peer pressure is amplified in social media. Let’s say you have 100 friends: all of them (can) see your interaction with Liberal Friend. If 50 or even 5 of the 100 are liberals, you are potentially alienating that 5 or 50. Similarly a liberal can alienate his/her conservative friends/family.

One of my nephews is extremely conservative, and a niece is correspondingly liberal. They barely speak any more as a result of Facebook. It’s gone beyond just ‘unfriending’ someone with differing views. Just a pity.

Personally, I keep away (mostly) from politics on FB, get enough right here. And I stay away (mostly) from religion at FR. Works well for the blood pressure.


16 posted on 08/27/2014 12:48:16 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Sir Napsalot

My Facebook friends express their opinions all the time, and I differ with many of them on most issues and all of them on one issue or another.


17 posted on 08/27/2014 1:27:14 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

I was just thinking about this today before reading this article. I decided to just put cute little animal post on
fb and stick with Free Republic for discussions of current events and politics. Very few people I know on fb even watch the news.


18 posted on 08/27/2014 4:49:29 PM PDT by make no mistake
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To: make no mistake

I think I am going to post this article on fb


19 posted on 08/27/2014 4:55:47 PM PDT by make no mistake
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To: make no mistake
I was just thinking about this today before reading this article. I decided to just put cute little animal post on fb and stick with Free Republic for discussions of current events and politics. Very few people I know on fb even watch the news.

Right, so much basic misunderstanding and personal attacks.

Sometime before the 2012 election (I joined in 2010), I started "unfollowing"/"hiding" the posts from people I know with who don't have much sense or tolerance. A few were even unfriended altogether but not many.

FB doesn't even show you all of the content that you opt into anymore, why should you have to suffer "interweb group debate" posts (when because you participate in them then dominate your visible news feed)?

There is name calling and huffing here, but at least there are generally some basic accepted facts and citations when asked.

20 posted on 08/27/2014 8:42:56 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (ISIS has started up a slave trade in Iraq. Mission accomplshed, Barack, Mission accomplished.)
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