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WY:Bear Spray v. Bullets: Flaws in the Studies
Gun Watch ^ | 2 October, 2014 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 10/03/2014 10:24:33 AM PDT by marktwain

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People who want to get rid of guns do not care about facts.
1 posted on 10/03/2014 10:24:33 AM PDT by marktwain
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2 posted on 10/03/2014 10:28:02 AM PDT by cripplecreek
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Uhmmmm, if I’m in Bear country I want a minimum .45 and 4 extra mags.

I’d also like any rifle chambered above .300 and extra mags.

skip that bear spray stuff.

Several rounds, penetrating the head ought to keep me safe and then I’ll make a rug out of the punk...


3 posted on 10/03/2014 10:30:31 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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how about spraying it with bullets...


4 posted on 10/03/2014 10:30:50 AM PDT by VAFreedom (maybe i should take a nap before work)
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LOL!


5 posted on 10/03/2014 10:32:25 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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People who want to get rid of guns do not care about facts.

Nope. To liberal true believers gun control is a religious belief. Religion is not subject to logical constraints.

To parapharase Stuart Chase,"For the true believer no proof is necessary and no disproof possible"

6 posted on 10/03/2014 10:32:36 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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Sample size alone obviates any statistical study of these events. Personally, I do hike in bear country and I do carry both. But nothing is a substitute for situational awareness - most bear attacks occur within three seconds of the principals sighting one another, and that isn’t really much time to draw and present either spray or a firearm.


7 posted on 10/03/2014 10:34:57 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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.45 auto would be my bare (bear?) minimum ... I’d think more in terms of .44Mag ... or the “Ruger Only” .45 Colt loads ... or something like that.


8 posted on 10/03/2014 10:35:48 AM PDT by NorthMountain
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Bear spray will possibly make a bear stop and run away. A gun will make a bear run away from intense pain or die. I will put my faith in the more logical of the 2. I’ll let the FReepers decide which one is more logical.
And remember folks. Don’t put your finger on the trigger until you are ready to fire.


9 posted on 10/03/2014 10:38:21 AM PDT by vpintheak (Keep calm and Fire for Effect!)
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That was my minimum.

I’d actually carry my Cimarron .45, with moon clips


10 posted on 10/03/2014 10:39:00 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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Here, YOU take the spray and I'll take the gun.

There, see, now everyone is equal and we have a level playing field for all the sensitive types among us.

Oh, by the way, I think it's globull warmong that is causing all these bear attacks. Well, that and the peanut butter sandwiches people are carring.

11 posted on 10/03/2014 10:39:26 AM PDT by Obadiah (None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.)
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Before guns were legally allowed in National Parks, rangers in the NPs in Alaska viewed carrying a gun in bear country just plain common sense in spite of the law. They would even ask an unarmed hiker why he wasn’t carrying. 44 magnum with special bear loads were typical.


12 posted on 10/03/2014 10:54:40 AM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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.454 Casul vs Bear Spray? Hmmmmmm! :-)


13 posted on 10/03/2014 10:55:45 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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bear spray is superior to firearms as a defense against bears.

BULLSHOT!!

14 posted on 10/03/2014 10:57:52 AM PDT by GoldenPup
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But nothing is a substitute for situational awareness - most bear attacks occur within three seconds of the principals sighting one another, and that isn’t really much time to draw and present either spray or a firearm.

Excellent point. My sister's cabin is in bear country (San Isabel national forest in Colorado) and we hike all over the area. My last encounter I smelled the big guy before I saw him. The wind was in my face so I just stopped and waited for it to move on.

The .44 Mag Blackhawk was a comfort.

15 posted on 10/03/2014 10:58:37 AM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Zactly.

With all probability one wins over the other, with a predictable outcome..

Beary spray=higly incensed bear=you are a picnic basket.

.454 and I have a bear skin rug...


16 posted on 10/03/2014 11:03:07 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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Right...You can always tell you are in a bear area in the woods by the little bells in the bear crap.


17 posted on 10/03/2014 11:05:02 AM PDT by GoldenPup
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penetrating the head ought to keep me safe and then I’ll make a rug out of the punk...

You're better off aiming for center mass, not the head. Bullets have been known to bounce off the thick skulls of grizzlies.

18 posted on 10/03/2014 11:49:59 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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When I see bears casually ripping apart wasp and bee hives to eat the larva or honey, with their heads swarmed, I instantly lose faith in a can of spray to be an effective deterrent.


19 posted on 10/03/2014 11:52:09 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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and it would mess up his beautiful head making my rug look disgusting.

Thnx!


20 posted on 10/03/2014 11:53:02 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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