Excerpt (pages 14-15):
"Applying the sporting purposes framework set-forth above, the 5.56mm projectile that ATF exempted in 1986 does not qualify for an exemption because that projectile when loaded into SS109 and M855 cartridges may be used in a handgun other than a single-shot handgun.
"Specifically, 5.56mm projectiles loaded into the SS109 and M855 cartridges are commonly used in both AR-type rifles and AR-type handguns. The AR platform is the semi-automatic version of the M16 machine gun originally designed for and used by the military.
"The AR-based handguns and rifles utilize the same magazines and share identical receivers. These AR-type handguns were not commercially available when the armor piercing ammunition exemption was granted in 1986.
"To ensure consistency, upon final implementation of the sporting purpose framework outlined above, ATF must withdraw the exemptions for 5.56 mm green tip ammunition, including both the SS109 and M855 cartridges.7
"ATF recognizes that this ammunition is widely available to the public. Because it is legally permissible to possess armor piercing ammunition under current law, withdrawing the exemption will not place individuals in criminal possession of armor piercing ammunition.
"However, with few exceptions, manufacturers will be unable to produce such armor piercing ammunition, importers will be unable to import such ammunition, and manufacturers and importers will be prohibited from selling or distributing the ammunition.8
"7 Projectiles of this caliber loaded into these cartridges made from other metals, e.g., lead or copper, is not armor piercing to begin with, and will not be effected by the withdrawal of this exemption."
Also:
"ATF will accept comments for 30 days from the date this notification, which will be considered prior to finalizing the framework."
Get it while it lasts....
...’the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed...”
so this must be somewhere else, some tin-pot dictatorship somewhere...can’t be in USA because we have the Constitution
Well, I am as pro-2nd as anyone, and I object to ANY ban on AP rounds. I’d do away with all the laws like that.
That said, the ATF is actually doing a pretty fair reading of the existing law. They’re right, AR handguns were not out there when this exemption was issued.
So I give them a minor nod for not making new law up out of whole cloth.
What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts
/johnny
I already know the answer, but still I have to ask, Why?
What excuse/lie are they using to to this?
(Yes, I know it’s because (a) they think they can get away with it, and (b) the ultimate goal is to have people disarmed to the point that armed resistance to TPTB is futile)
You can easily see where this is headed.
The attack of the bureaucracies continues and nary a RINO in sight.
Hitler did not want an armed public either...
Isn’t 30.06 or .308 the kind of ammo that can penetrate. How rediculous are they going to get?
I think i'll still be able to defend myself pretty well with that bit of knowledge.
Seems like a good 2nd Amendment case could be made on this topic: there is no distinction nor requirement under the Second Amendment that arms be used or required “for sporting purposes.”
The Second Amendment is not about deer hunting (sorry American Hunter) nor about punching holes in paper. It’s about defending our freedoms from governments such as we have right now.
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We're armed so you don't have to be...
We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that weve set. Weve got to have a civilian national security force thats just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded. Barack Hussein Obama, 7/2/2008They dont call it a Civil Defense force, that would imply we need (or perhaps that we deserve) defense. The official name is National Civilian Community Corps.
I think of it as the NatCCC, or more simply, as the NatCs...
Muuuhthuh Truckuhs!
While I see where the feds have the Commerce Clause authority to regulate manufactured goods traded across state borders, I have a problem with ATF interfering with intrastate commerce.
More specifically, regardless what FDRs activist justices wanted everybody to think about the extent of Congresss Commerce Clause powers when it wrongly decided Wickard v. Filburn in corrupt Congresss favor in 1942, FDRs thug justices wrongly ignored that the Supreme Court had previous clarified that the states have never delegated to the feds, expressly via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate intrastate commerce or to regulate agriculture. This is evidenced by the following excerpts from case opinions.
State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress [emphases added]. Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited. None to regulate agricultural production is given, and therefore legislation by Congress for that purpose is forbidden [emphasis added]. United States v. Butler, 1936.
In fact, regardless that federal Democrats and RINOs will argue that if the Constitution doesnt say that they cannot do something then they can do it, note that the Supreme Court has condemned that foolish idea. More specifically, the Supreme Court has clarified in broad terms that powers not expressly delegated to the feds via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate intrastate commerce and agriculture in this case, are prohibited to the feds.
From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added]. United States v. Butler, 1936.
So states can produce alcohol, tobacco and guns without federal interference, imo, until such things are sold across state borders.
As a side note concerning federal gun regulations, note that gun regulations for civilians dont seem to have appeared in the federal books until Constitution-ignoring socialist became president, FDR and his corrupt Congress infamous for blatantly overstepping the federal governments constitutionally limited powers.
Franklin Roosevelt: The Father of Gun Control
Also, the fact that the feds are sticking their big noses in intrastate places where they dont belong is more evidenced that the 17th Amendment should never have been ratified. If federal senators still answered only to state lawmakers then the Senate would probably have killed the bills which gave ATF its constitutionally indefensible power to interfere with intrastate commerce and gun-control laws.
bfl...
The 2nd amendment has nothing to do with sporting purposes.
And they turn up the heat on the water the frog is sitting in another degree,
As long as the potential (and real) fascists have armor, the people should be able to pierce it. What are they afraid of? What do they want to do to the people that would make them scared of an armed resistance?