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If Giuliani’s Obama Smear Wasn’t Racist, What Was It?
New York Magazine ^ | February 20, 2015 | Jonathan Chait

Posted on 02/22/2015 9:11:28 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

When Rudy Giuliani accused President Obama of not loving America, was he expressing a form of racism? If not, what was Giuliani saying?

I have argued, controversially to some on the left, that it is important to grapple with ideas on their own terms before merely analyzing their motivations. American conservatism is historically intertwined with white racism in such a way that nearly any conservative idea could plausibly be understood as an appeal to racism, but most of those ideas can be expressed and justified in non-racial terms, and deserve to be taken at face value. The trouble with Giuliani’s comments is that they lack the coherence necessary to be analyzed as an idea. Brush away the bilious rage he has emitted, and nothing solid remains behind.

The original basis for Giuliani’s comments was Obama’s allegedly unusual upbringing. “He wasn’t brought up the way you were brought up and I was brought up, through love of this country,” alleged the former mayor. As Wayne Barrett points out, Giuliani’s father was a mob enforcer, and he and his five brothers all avoided military service during World War II. What about this upbringing in any way suggests it conveyed some deeper patriotism than Obama’s?

Giuliani subsequently clarified his original remarks, though not in the way he intended, by asserting that Obama’s alleged anti-Americanism amounted to “socialism or possibly anti-colonialism.” Here Giuliani is reprising the theories of Dinesh D’Souza, who has described Obama as fundamentally influenced by Kenyan anti-colonialism. Unfortunately for Giuliani, D’Souza’s racism is so transparent not even many conservatives care to defend it any longer....

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TOPICS: Government; Local News; Politics
KEYWORDS: accurate; giuliani; newyork; obama; rudygiuliani; scottwalker; spoton; wisconsin
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1 posted on 02/22/2015 9:11:28 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Easy answer. Liberals of all colors hate America. It has nothing to do with Obama’s race. It has everything to do with his beliefs.


2 posted on 02/22/2015 9:12:33 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Any dissent is racist....how convenient for dems.


3 posted on 02/22/2015 9:12:36 AM PST by Lady Heron
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Truth.


4 posted on 02/22/2015 9:12:45 AM PST by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

PS. Obama loves America the way OJ loved Nicole.


5 posted on 02/22/2015 9:13:08 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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watch.them.twitch.


6 posted on 02/22/2015 9:13:18 AM PST by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Pope Francis)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What was it?

True.

That’s what.


7 posted on 02/22/2015 9:13:37 AM PST by ifinnegan
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Just ask a liberal what they love about America.

You’ll either get nothing or a string of far left things that have been done in the last few years.


8 posted on 02/22/2015 9:13:47 AM PST by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why would anybody not Black every vote for a black again if we can not speak out against wrongs being done by that person because of the color of skin. Any evil is allow to be done if a black person is in power I guess. No thanks.


9 posted on 02/22/2015 9:13:57 AM PST by Lady Heron
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Prophetic, actually.


10 posted on 02/22/2015 9:14:34 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Lady Heron
Any dissent is racist

That sums it up entirely. It was probably stated exactly so when he was being prepared for the presidency by whomever did that.

11 posted on 02/22/2015 9:14:51 AM PST by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Pope Francis)
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If Giuliani’s Obama Smear Wasn’t Racist, What Was It?

It wasn't a "smear." It wasn't "racist." It was a straightforward statement of fact. It was the truth.

12 posted on 02/22/2015 9:14:56 AM PST by GreenHornet
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The racially obsessed see everything through a lens of racism.

Anyone with an obsession--no matter what the obsession is--see everything through the lens of the obsession. It's just how humans think.

13 posted on 02/22/2015 9:16:06 AM PST by Savage Beast (Let's roll!)
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well you could say it was nationalist..

and that’s a good thing to be...

Rudy loves America and was just pointing out that Obama does not..


14 posted on 02/22/2015 9:16:16 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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"American conservatism is historically intertwined with white racism..."

This from the party of slavery, the KKK and Jim Crow.

15 posted on 02/22/2015 9:17:11 AM PST by Flag_This (You can't spell "treason" without the "O".)
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16 posted on 02/22/2015 9:17:26 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Obama is not only NOT a patriot he hates everything this country believes in.


17 posted on 02/22/2015 9:18:05 AM PST by puppypusher ( The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s not a “smear” if it’s true.


18 posted on 02/22/2015 9:18:12 AM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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TRUTH !
19 posted on 02/22/2015 9:18:43 AM PST by tomkat
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To: Travis McGee

20 posted on 02/22/2015 9:20:04 AM PST by PROCON (Always give 100%---unless you're donating blood.)
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