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Off The Wall: Minimum Wage
Mike'sBlog ^ | 5 Feb 2015 | Mike Rowe

Posted on 02/25/2015 10:26:11 AM PST by shove_it

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To: central_va
Drive-by analysis irritates the he!! out of me. It's not just the fact that it's invariably wrong...it's the presumptuousness and arrogance that really grates me.

You read something online from a Google search about restaurant labor costs...not realizing that labor % refers to full service restaurants. Then you find (through a Google search, I guess) a page about automation by a company that provides automation that says its about manufacturing and retail, but all the examples apply to manufacturing.

Google can find information for you. It cannot understand for you.

41 posted on 02/25/2015 1:00:05 PM PST by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the eGOP does not want you.)
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To: shove_it

Wow, that treatment at the gas station must’ve made one feel like royalty. Now we just shelp our heaps to the pump and fill it. My 13 y/o car has rust all over it. Used to wash and wax it but what’s the point?


42 posted on 02/25/2015 1:12:28 PM PST by bicyclerepair (Ft. Lauderdale FL (zombie land). TERM LIMITS ... TERM LIMITS)
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To: gogeo

Ok so how much does a $3.99 big mac costs of labor is $20/ per hour ? 50 bucks! 100 bucks! What? YOU DO ANALYSIS YOU LAZY < deleted >.


43 posted on 02/25/2015 1:23:42 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

From your link

#1 increasing your productivity and profitability
(ie cost and profit)

#2 Save your business money and productivity
(ie cost and profit)

#3 Remove the risk for your staff and save yourself the trouble
(ie cost and profit)

#4 reduce manufacturers operating costs by extending operating hours without additional labour and reducing rework and scrap rates
(ie cost and profit)

#5 perform repetitive tasks with an accuracy and repeatability
(ie cost and profit)

More than doubling minimum wage would have a greater impact than any of these. Change that 35% of total costs by multiplying by nearly 3 and compare that result.


44 posted on 02/25/2015 1:24:51 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: gogeo

You do understand that not all of the cost of a big mac is labor right? You do get that right?


45 posted on 02/25/2015 1:25:17 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: thackney
Things that have been automated would still be automated whether minimum wage was .25/hr or $25.00/hour.

The problem is for manufacturing, the automation being done now is in Asia and not here since we gave them our factories on a silver platter.

46 posted on 02/25/2015 1:28:33 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: thackney

If McDonald’s plans on automating some of its processes those plans are going to go ahead whether the minimum wage goes up or down. Those plans are going to go forward.


47 posted on 02/25/2015 1:30:16 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Things that have been automated would still be automated whether minimum wage was .25/hr

False.


48 posted on 02/25/2015 1:31:56 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

Why are factories in Asia where wages are tiny being automated?


49 posted on 02/25/2015 1:39:45 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
You can't "analysis." Static analysis does not work. You can believe the new wage will not be applied to the existing way of doing things...so trying to analyze how the $$$ would flow through cannot work.

What you can know for sure is that it will increase costs and cause disruption. You can know for sure there will be fewer employees at a higher minimum wage. This will come as a result of all of these: fewer Big Macs sold at a higher price point, fewer Franchise locations over time, and greater automation in existing restaurants.

50 posted on 02/25/2015 1:45:56 PM PST by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the eGOP does not want you.)
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To: bicyclerepair

Not long ago the ladies could get an attendant at the gas station to pump the gas, wash the windows and check/adjust the tire pressure by paying a few cents/gal extra for “full service” but I haven’t seen any of those service stations lately. Now the only service is built into the car’s or the gas pump’s automation controls or performed by a surly Paki clerk behind bulletproof glass collecting cash. The rest is do-it-yourself. That’s the way most everything seems to be headed.


51 posted on 02/25/2015 1:59:45 PM PST by shove_it (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen -- Dennis Prager)
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To: gogeo

You can bet McDonalds knows the unit cost for every thing they sell. Labor to the penny. So are you one of those “10 dollar hamburger if minimum wage doubles” people. If so you are being ridiculous.


52 posted on 02/25/2015 2:49:00 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Cost and profit.

I have not made any claim that minimum wage is the only reason to automate. But if you think raising minimum wage from current levels to $20 as this article discussed would not drive additional automation, you are mistaken.


53 posted on 02/25/2015 3:30:06 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: shove_it

When I was getting ready to graduate from high school my mother was babysitting for a couple. He was a regional manager at Walmart (1976). He tried to convince me to come to work for him and the store instead of going to college.

My parents would have none of it even though I was soon to be 18 and was going to pay for it myself. I went to the Univ of Ark instead.

DOH! Wish I had taken him up on the offer.


54 posted on 02/25/2015 3:35:31 PM PST by Fledermaus (The GOP is dead to me! McConnell and Boehner can drop dead!!)
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To: central_va
If you have to ask you didn't read and understand what I posted. We would not see a doubling of Big Macs $$$. The higher minimum wage would not factor in to the same degree because there would be fewer employees being paid. The effect would be seen and felt by every factor involved, employees, management, ownership.

The "unintended consequences" would overwhelm whatever positive effect may be created. It can be no other way. Call a minimum wage what it is...price controls applied in this case to labor. The market will not be denied.

You can put lipstick on a pig, but you cannot make it fly.

55 posted on 02/25/2015 5:56:14 PM PST by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the eGOP does not want you.)
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To: oldtech

It is terribly easy, as a young man starting out, to get on a path which, late or soon, turns into or reveals itself as a dead end.

Hit a dead end, and you are overqualified and under qualified, both. And overextended as well. it is a mess. I feel for you.

I had significant savings, but really, exogenous factors bailed me out. I don’t have an answer. Of all the times to be in your situation! A Great Recession to deal with at the same time!


56 posted on 02/25/2015 6:59:58 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: knarf

You’re right. The problem started a long time before they ended up voting in Obama. Obama is just the result, not the start of our troubles.


57 posted on 02/25/2015 8:46:33 PM PST by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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