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What ISIS really Wants
The Atlantic.com ^ | February 25, 2015 | Graeme Wood

Posted on 02/26/2015 6:14:41 AM PST by Reverend Saltine

...Our ignorance of the Islamic State is in some ways understandable: It is a hermit kingdom; few have gone there and returned. Baghdadi has spoken on camera only once. But his address, and the Islamic State’s countless other propaganda videos and encyclicals, are online, and the caliphate’s supporters have toiled mightily to make their project knowable. We can gather that their state rejects peace as a matter of principle; that it hungers for genocide; that its religious views make it constitutionally incapable of certain types of change, even if that change might ensure its survival; and that it considers itself a harbinger of—and headline player in—the imminent end of the world.....

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; History; Military/Veterans; Society
KEYWORDS: 7thposting; makeadonation
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1 posted on 02/26/2015 6:14:41 AM PST by Reverend Saltine
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2 posted on 02/26/2015 6:16:13 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

3 posted on 02/26/2015 6:16:42 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Reverend Saltine

1. All male infidels dead.
2. All female infidels enslaved.
3. Everyone to acknowledge Obama loves America.


4 posted on 02/26/2015 6:20:56 AM PST by samtheman
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To: Reverend Saltine

ISIS wants the same thing Hitler wanted, the same thing Stalin wanted, the same thing Pol Pot wanted, the same thing Caligula wanted, the same thing Che Guevera wanted, the same thing Fidel Castro wanted and that is unlimited power to make life-death decision. They will kill off their own friends, just like Saddam, Stalin, Lenin, Hitler and they will all burn in hell.


5 posted on 02/26/2015 6:21:38 AM PST by yldstrk
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To: yldstrk
They will kill off their own friends, just like Saddam, Stalin, Lenin, Hitler and they will all burn in hell.

They should be napalmed, so that they get a taste of what burning in hell will be like.
6 posted on 02/26/2015 6:28:09 AM PST by baltimorepoet
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To: baltimorepoet

There’s an idea


7 posted on 02/26/2015 6:35:10 AM PST by yldstrk
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To: Reverend Saltine

The covert origins of IS/ISIS/ISIL (aka Al Qaeda in Iraq and Syria).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMjXbuj7BPI

And who started Al Qaeda? Our own CIA to counter the invasion of Afghanistan by the Soviets in 1979.

And why does Obama insist on calling IS/ISIS ISIL? Because ISIS plans on taking the whole Levant. The Levant covers the region from Turkey to Egypt and includes Syria, western Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon, and most importantly...Israel.

This conflict is going to suck a lot of nations into this fight according to David Icke.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK5ZAapfylQ

One example: “France Has Begun Bombing ISIS In Iraq”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3205658/posts

Cult of Subud, Islam, ancient Egypt, and Obama
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFCQvvXSwx4
http://obamamessiah.blogspot.com/
OBAMA: FALSE HOPE, FALSE MESSIAH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNRT0P-oZfw

BILL GATES CALLS FOR ‘GLOBAL GOVERNMENT’
http://www.infowars.com/bill-gates-calls-for-global-government/

Plus, we see the rise of anti-Semitism all over the world including here in America while Jews are fleeing to Israel. The world is on the verge of a massive economic collapse and world war 3.

Expect a new Nimrod (world dictator) to show up on the world scene to make everything better with his collectivist, one world government.

And I bet the Nimrod 2.0 will also be a descendant of Cush just like the original.

Tonight I’m gonna party like it’s 1939! (and 1914)


8 posted on 02/26/2015 6:39:19 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: yldstrk

ISIS is evil incarnate... it as an organization, is an anti-christ. Fear and death are its only goal and reason for existence. It’s goal is to drag as many souls to hell as possible and destroy all that is good and Godly. Look at not only the brutal killing of Christians but the destruction of churches... in essence anything good and holy must be destroyed.

I believe ISIS to be an evil beast. Is it the beast of revelations? I have no idea. Could it be, I believe so. Only world leaders who soldier for God will defeat it, but defeated they will be as we all know the end to the story.


9 posted on 02/26/2015 6:41:22 AM PST by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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Not true.

Their reason for existence is to establish a global calibrate, starting in the holy land.


10 posted on 02/26/2015 6:47:48 AM PST by BlueNgold (Have we crossed the line from Govt. in righteous fear of the People - to a People in fear of Govt??)
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Only Three days to go until March!

FReepers, Let's GIT_R_DONE!


11 posted on 02/26/2015 6:54:12 AM PST by RedMDer (Keep Free Republic Alive with YOUR Donations!)
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And what is the goal of the caliphate? and why in the holy land? Ultimately, to create Hell on Earth for all of God’s faithful... with Satan’s chosen as supreme ruler.


12 posted on 02/26/2015 6:54:27 AM PST by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: Reverend Saltine
This is a long read, but well worth it. I'll summarize some points I took away from it.

The author points out that ISIS and al-Qaeda are at odds with each other and require different strategies of engagement. If they join together as one, it would be a very bad thing.

ISIS is not so much interested in global terrorism as it is in attracting an army of believers to the Middle East under a caliphate and precipitating a final battle with the west which would be a fulfillment of the Koran.

The author claims that our mishandling of Iraq created the vacuum that allowed ISIS to rise, but also suggests that to repeat the same strategy of invasion would play into ISIS's hands and attract even more adherents.

The author believes that eventually Islam will have an internal war and that the more level headed will dispense with ISIS, but that may take a while and, in the meantime, a strategy of containment should be employed and not a whole hog one.

He sees the brutality of ISIS as a propaganda tool to draw the US and allies into a heavy response and expects the brutality to get much, much worse. So in that way, he agrees with Obama's restraint.

He does NOT agree with Obama's insistence that ISIS is not acting on religious grounds and that Obama's refusal to accept that ISIS is an Islamic movement is a gross error.

13 posted on 02/26/2015 7:05:10 AM PST by randita (Obama entrusted the transformation of the best healthcare system in the world to a scam artist.)
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To: longfellowsmuse

Have you read the article? The author answers your questions (maybe not to your satisfaction - but his is one view).


14 posted on 02/26/2015 7:05:56 AM PST by randita (Obama entrusted the transformation of the best healthcare system in the world to a scam artist.)
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To: randita

Yes, I have read the article... I stand by what I said in my first post on this thread (#9) My questions on my second post were a rhetorical reply to someone who questioned my first post.

The article states that the goal of ISIS is religious apocalypse This is not inconsistent with my understanding of their organization.


15 posted on 02/26/2015 7:18:56 AM PST by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: Travis McGee

A long learned ant thoughtful article but the most constructive/destructive conclusion to be drawn, I think, is not what the author thinks he is projecting. It is extermination.


16 posted on 02/26/2015 8:13:40 AM PST by arthurus (it's true!)
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To: BlueNgold

Calibrate? That sounds a little more delicate than anything Da’esh has to offer.


17 posted on 02/26/2015 8:15:11 AM PST by arthurus (it's true!)
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To: Reverend Saltine

Most of the info is good, but some of it is junk and mis-information.


18 posted on 02/26/2015 8:15:29 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

What parts of it do you consider to be junk and misinformation? Would you cite other sources on the topic which you would consider to be trustworthy?


19 posted on 02/26/2015 9:08:26 AM PST by randita (Obama entrusted the transformation of the best healthcare system in the world to a scam artist.)
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To: yldstrk

You leave out one thing. Elimination of the Jews.


20 posted on 02/26/2015 9:10:10 AM PST by RetiredArmy (MARANATHA, MARANATHA, Come quickly LORD Jesus!!! Father send thy Son!! Its Time!)
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