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An open letter to the homophobic doctor and florist who humiliate LGBT families (Pretzel logic)
LGBTQ Nation ^ | March 12, 2015 | Rob Watson, Dad, LGBT activist, businessman and blogger, evoL =

Posted on 03/12/2015 1:37:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

A popular insurance company pays a great deal of advertising money to let everyone know that they are in fact “our good neighbors.” They populate commercial after commercial with cheery, miraculously at-your-service agents who care about their clients above all else.

While I am sure their real agents are customer relations friendly, the reality is they are likely no more so than any other public facing company. The associates, employed by the company, who personify saintly best friend types the most, are the actors in the ads.

The truth is, customers are not important loved ones in the lives of service people. We are, at best, friendly, tip-paying, lucrative transactions. We don’t represent go-to shoulders to cry on, we represent income, and even the warmest heart moving gesture is a business decision.

Likewise, as consumers, we are not buying advice, approval or input from those serving us.

The cashier at the local grocery store is not our equal partner in deciding how we feed our family and whether we are good parents or not. He or she does not get a vote in how we run our lives, instead, we look for that person to treat us professionally and with equal courtesy as they would all others.

Proponents of the conservative “Religious Freedom” strategy would have us believe differently. To them, a Christian business person is not only beyond a transaction based relation, they are an intimate who should have a personal say, and commentary on the lives of their LGBT clientele, lives in which most would say the business person has no stake.

This “commentary” usually comes in the form of rejection, judgment and the refusal of service. It is rude, and it is humiliating.

In some of these cases, these behaviors are not only mean-spirited, they are illegal and go against local non-discrimination laws.

Barronelle Stutzman, a florist in Washington, just lost in her bid to discriminate against two gay men wanting to marry. Her flowers had been sentimentally important to them in their romance, and her rejection soured their betrothal.

Others are legal, but wrong.

In a recent case a pediatrician, Dr. Vesna Roi, rejected lesbian moms and their baby as clients. She had been vetted and the couple felt protected and validated, then she shamed them for being who they were as parents. The family had no legal protection due to a failure in Michigan’s laws.

Such actions are legal in most states. Arkansas and Indiana have recently made moves to not only make sure discrimination is legal; they have taken steps to encourage it.

Refusing service to LGBT families when it happens is cruel and demeaning. The couples it happens to are blindsided. The rejection seems to be rigged like stink bombs going off in the moments that should be positive milestones in the family’s experience.

My letter to two who felt it was their place to degrade LGBT families:

Dear Doctor Roi and Florist Stutzman,

At this point, you have each served dozens of individuals, if not hundreds. Some of those you feel personally about, and intimate — they feel like friends. Others, the doctor needs to check their file to remember details, and the florist knows no more about them than their credit card number.

Looking back to the day when you each decided to work with the public. I have to assume that you went into business to bring happiness, comfort and a high level of satisfaction to whomever stood before you.

Instead, you have gained infamy for doing the opposite. You both behaved in completely heartless ways, and worse, called on Jesus Christ to justify it.

Your rationalization is as disappointing as your actions themselves.

You, Dr. Roi stated that you “prayed on” your decision to reject. It is sad that Christian theology has earned a reputation as being supportive of your lack of decency even though the Christ behind it dictated “loving ones neighbor as yourself,” and to do no harm to little children. He made these pronouncements in between the times he was admonishing people for judging others.

Ms. Stutzman, you claim that the act of selling a couple flowers for their commitment to marriage and declaration of life long love violates your “freedom to honor God doing what you do best.”

You earned money from the couple as part of their romance and seduction (and presumably sex). That income did fit into your “deeply held” religious principles, apparently. About those transactions you say you “kindly” delivered and “would gladly continue to do so.” Your principles therefore are not against gay sex, they are against life-long love, commitment, honor and responsibility.

While I do hope you re-examine your “logic” behind your actions, I am asking here for something more. I am asking you, and service providers like you, to stop attempting to humiliate LGBT families at the moments that should be the most respected and wonderful of our lives. Quit trying to take away our precious moments.

The Declaration of Independence, as Alabama Supreme Court Justice Roy Moore has pointed out, is about a principle that precedes our rule of law.

He, of course, wants that principle to be about a God that Roy Moore defines, but his overall point is valid. We each have the human right to pursue happiness in our personal lives, and we do not have the right to attempt to disrupt it in others.

When the Supreme Court of Massachusetts became the first judiciary to declare same sex marriage a constitutional right, they did so by making a significant observation. They pointed out that in a person’s lifetime, the spouse that person chooses is one of the most profoundly, self-determing actions that an individual can take.

Likewise, as we go through the process of bringing our families together, the decisions around the details of marrying including the right flowers, the right cakes, the best photography are all integral to the fabric of the memories we are creating. Those things may seem superficial, and in truth they ARE superficial to observers, and they have likely been so to YOU in most of your professional transactions. They are NOT superficial to the people involved. The young men wanted your flowers because of the role your arrangements played in their romance.

Your flowers did not bring meaning to the men and their love, their love brought meaning to your flowers.

Likewise, Dr. Roi, every first event with a baby is golden to new parents. The first laugh, the first burp, and especially the first forays into parental responsibility, the first doctor visits.

Both my sons were adopted out of the foster care system, and all our “firsts” were done with a back drop of pretty dire and dramatic events. Even with that, the moments were precious as we took on the profound understanding that these little lives were completely dependent on us, and the most important responsibilities we would ever have.

A pair of lesbian moms came to you, screened you, and extended you trust in their journey of parental responsibility. Their coming to you did not validate their parenthood, their patronage of you validated you as being worthy of trust.

God did not bring these couples to you so you could judge them. His intention was for you to experience your humanity by serving them. He intended to give you the gift of bearing witness to significant moments in their lives.

His intention was to enrich you. He failed. And, in being the professional you intended to be, so did you.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Government; Society
KEYWORDS: fascism; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; samesexmarriage
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Got that?
1 posted on 03/12/2015 1:37:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am offended over all these easily offended people.


2 posted on 03/12/2015 1:46:41 PM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Proponents of the conservative “Religious Freedom” strategy would have us believe differently. To them, a Christian business person is not only beyond a transaction based relation, they are an intimate who should have a personal say, and commentary on the lives of their LGBT clientele, lives in which most would say the business person has no stake.

The first amendment also guarantees the right to peacefully assemble. That includes for the purpose of business. Further, just like the other amendments provide protections both for and against forced exercise of the right; the first amendment includes the right to NOT associate with someone - even for the purpose of business. That is right, businesses have the CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to not serve you.

3 posted on 03/12/2015 1:47:16 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, if a pair of habitual shoplifters came to me and asked me to celebrate their thievery, I would politely tell them they are mistaken to believe that what they do is good and worth promoting. Tragically, homosexuals will not understand or accept that their behavior is not something people adhering to Scriptural ethics wish to give their stamp of approval on.


4 posted on 03/12/2015 1:48:32 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The stupid in this open letter... it hurts. It hurts my head.


5 posted on 03/12/2015 1:48:59 PM PDT by FateAmenableToChange
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Really? So why are you posting that trash here?


6 posted on 03/12/2015 1:49:43 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think the difference in florists and bakers for weddings is the often find themselves present at the wedding to help set up things.


7 posted on 03/12/2015 1:52:15 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Pikachu_Dad

I’m getting kind of tired of answering that sort of question. Are we just here to talk about the latest Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh or Ann Coulter column?


8 posted on 03/12/2015 1:53:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
God did not bring these couples to you so you could judge them. His intention was for you to experience your humanity by serving them. He intended to give you the gift of bearing witness to significant moments in their lives.

Uhm, I pretty sure God has NOTHING to do with you fascist sodomite freaks walking in and demanding service from a private business. Satan, OTOH, is surely working overtime on your behalf.

9 posted on 03/12/2015 1:54:40 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
There is so much crap and just out and out bullshit in this missive, that I lost my place several times, got confused on who says what to who, got lost in the apparent first-hand knowledge of what God is doing and thinking...my mind boggles.

What a self-righteous dumbass.

10 posted on 03/12/2015 1:55:18 PM PDT by OldSmaj (obama is a worthless mohametan. Impeach his ass now!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

For the sake of accuracy I wish they’d use homonauseous instead of homophobic.


11 posted on 03/12/2015 1:56:43 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: OldSmaj

Y’all just don’t understand the nuanced argument. hehehe


12 posted on 03/12/2015 1:57:22 PM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

God has already judged the act of homosexuality, and He didn’t take those couples anywhere. They went there of their own accord. And if those couples have any respect for the beliefs of others, they will brush the dust off their shoes, and go find a business that will work with them. But no, this isn’t about live and let live, each to his own perversion, so to speak. This is about revenge, about doing as much damage as possible to anyone who doesn’t kowtow to the corruption of the homosexual agenda. Go, and sin no more.


13 posted on 03/12/2015 1:57:37 PM PDT by pallis
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yet a company can boot you out for wearing.a pro-life t-shirt and deny them their service. Equality will not be for whites or Christians


14 posted on 03/12/2015 1:57:43 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: gorush

Is Sodomogravatus taken?


15 posted on 03/12/2015 2:00:31 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
God The devil did not bring these couples to you so you could judge them. His intention was for you to experience your humanity temptation by serving them. He intended to give you the gift damnation of bearing witness to significant moments in their lives. total destruction of your testimony.

Sorry, but no temptation comes from God. That is the father of lies department.

16 posted on 03/12/2015 2:02:25 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m wondering what State Farm has to do with this at all.


17 posted on 03/12/2015 2:14:30 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (God bless 'em.)
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To: Shimmer1

It’s probably that “gay dad’s” insurance company and he wanted to take a pot shot at them in print.


18 posted on 03/12/2015 2:15:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: Pikachu_Dad; 2ndDivisionVet
Really? So why are you posting that trash here?

I've noted he does it quite a lot and it used to make me wonder. I finally decided he does it to keep the rest of us informed as to what the opposition is saying and thinking.

He reads their nutburger commentary at their nutburger websites so that we don't have to. He is providing us all a useful service.

19 posted on 03/12/2015 2:21:31 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I always wonder, would these folks argue for:

A black owned dry cleaner business to clean KKK robes?
A jewish owned screen printing business to make neo-nazi signs?

Or anything else of the like?

These people are out to defeat people of Christian principles, nothing more or less.


20 posted on 03/12/2015 2:23:22 PM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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