Posted on 03/17/2015 4:48:47 PM PDT by Steelfish
End Birthright Citizenship Now
by MARK KRIKORIAN March 17, 2015 President Obama has clinched the case for ending automatic citizenship for the U.S.-born children of illegal aliens, tourists, and foreign students. To the extent that supporters of our current practice have made any coherent arguments at all in response to claims that such children are “anchor babies,” they have noted — correctly — that having a U.S.-born child does not give parents any formal right to stay or work in the United States, so that the “anchor baby” label is inaccurate.
They have claimed that automatic citizenship for children was not a magnet for illegal immigration because the parents remained deportable and were, in fact, sometimes deported. President Obama has changed all that. Thanks to a strategy outlined in a memo by John Morton, the director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, illegal aliens with U.S.-born children have been effectively exempt from deportation since 2011.
Last November, the president took the next step, and decreed that nearly 5 million illegal aliens were to be granted work permits and Social Security numbers — a grant that is nominally temporary but that everyone involved understands is actually permanent. Whatever the outcome of the various lawsuits against the Obama administration, an expectation has thus been established: The anti-borders Left (with its collaborators on the Right) will stop at nothing, including lawless executive decrees, to ensure that a child born in the United States really is an “anchor baby.” This converts the immigration law into the immigration suggestion, giving the president effectively unlimited power to admit and legalize foreigners, regardless of Congress’s wishes.
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I second the motion
Illegal aliens shouldn’t be deciding who our future citizenry is by dropping a kid
They are not “stateless” either. They have their parents nationality. So the sobbing can stop. It’s not a problem.
Twenty-two months.
Frankly, just ending government benefits (freebies) would go a LONG way towards repairing the problem.
Heck, it’s bad enough that we have to carry our own US citizen deadbeats - why import more?
Summed up my position better than I could. Thanks.
Someone posted an account of the 14th amendments creation here of FR a few years back.
The Senator who worded it specifically made it so former slaves would be citizens but to make sure birthright citizenship would not be allowed.
Later some agency or group or whoever just decided to pretend that it says the opposite of what it does say.
I really love birthright citizenship. Much better to protect borders and control immigration through other means. If I had to fill out paperwork to be a citizen, something could easily sideways. I like it that it is an indisputable fact, from the get-go.
Well, it says persons "subject to the jurisdiction of" the United States born here are citizens.
That's probably not what they meant, but that's what they wrote.
If being detained, having your property confiscated, and being forcibly removed by officials of the United States is not "subject to the jurisdiction of" the United States, I don't know what is.
An amendment is needed to resolve this, I think.
No it is clear as can be.
Illegal aliens or people who are citizens of another country are subjects of another country. Slaves were subject to our jurisdiction.
Are you serious or was there some subtle sarcasm that I missed?
That’s it!
Any politician who will support that without quivering and waffling has got my vote. If not they will never get my vote.
Serious. I would do a whole lot of other sensible things to control borders before I would mess with birthright citizenship. I really think altering it would have unintended consequences and backfire somehow.
I humbly admit, however, that I did not read the article. So I”m probably not worth wasting your time on.
Is there a petition? There should be 10 petitions.
The big problem is the Constitutional Amendment. Very difficult and time consuming to change. But all the more reason to enact your other suggestions right now, until we can change it.
Besides all else...
Birthing Hotels Spark Crackdown In Los Angeles County
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/28/birthing-hotels_n_2568135.html
The very first illegal aliens were Chinese who entered after 1882 (I think). At this time there were also some health restrictions added.
In 1907 most Japanese were added.
In 1901 they banned anarchists and in 1917 they added a requirement for literacy. Only I think in 1924 was the first law with comprehensive restriction by country of origin put in place.
So before the 20s only Chinese, Japanese, anarchists, illiterates and people with certain diseases could become illegal aliens. IOW, illegal aliens were the exception, anybody coming in was the default.
Given the fact that there was no such thing as an illegal alien in the 1860s, excluding them was obviously not considered when 14A was ratified.
The Indian Citizenship Act granted citizenship to Indians. Pretty clearly allowed under the naturalization power of Congress.
Getting rid of birthright citizenship would arguably conflict with the wording of 14A and therefore require an amendment.
You cannot argue that it wouldn’t be litigated and require a Supreme Court decision. They would have to decide if 14A grants birthright citizenship or not. If it doesn’t, they Congress can just pass a law. If 14A does grant citizenship by birthright, then it would require an amendment to repeal it.
AFAIK, it’s pretty clear by Wong Kim Ark that 14A gives birthright citizenship to children of legal residents. Children of tourists and of illegal aliens AFAIK the Supremes have never ruled on.
Are you saying that it was impossible to be in this country illegally at the time? It sounds like you are.
There would have been no reason to even have the 14th worded in any other way than to just say that anyone born in the U.S. would be immediately citizens. No reason at all for the wording it has.
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