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'The consequences will be catastrophic for the United States'
The New York Daily News ^ | April 1, 2015 | Jason Silverstein

Posted on 04/01/2015 6:59:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If half of the American people were not hell bent on committing national suicide, no power on earth could destroy the U.S.A.


41 posted on 04/01/2015 8:34:32 PM PDT by Savage Beast (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. --George Orwell)
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To: ansel12
I would much rather be a survivor in the United States, than one in Russia, over the following decades.

And I doubt that the area known formerly as Russia, would ever escape having been absorbed by China.


I know there would be scattered, isolated communities in Siberia east of the Urals that would survive, but they would most likely be on their own for a long, long time. Also, you would run into the Chi-Coms or what's left of them and/or the muzzies who live in the "stans" to the South. I remember talking about this with fellow "Twilight: 2000" role playing gamers. I think you're right, a U.S. survivor would be better off plus with two oceans and the Gulf of Mexico, trade would be easier with any surviving nations in South America.
42 posted on 04/01/2015 9:23:02 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Mom I miss you! (8-20-1938 to 11-18-2013) Cancer sucks)
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To: econjack

‘If they do that to Yellowstone, that’s pretty much the ball game for Earth, not just the US.’

‘Yellowstone nuking’ is a kind of like older Soviet military urban myth along with ‘San-Andreas nuking’ which is about to hit certain zones near the West Coast to force seismic process, separating California from mainland US and lowering it below Ocean level.

I don’t believe both things are possible and it is unlikely that operations like that were ever planned for real.

On the other hand, Communists proved itself as very capable in terms of out of proportion awful crimes against nature.
Who knows?


43 posted on 04/01/2015 9:30:07 PM PDT by Paid_Russian_Troll
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To: econjack

So that means John, Paul, George and Ringo will survive? I knew it! I just knew it!...o wait you said Beetles =)


44 posted on 04/01/2015 9:52:20 PM PDT by Patriot Babe
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I fear the ‘rulers’ in the White Hut far more than the Russians.


45 posted on 04/01/2015 9:52:22 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits ye shall know them.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Russians are already almost acting like they nuked us.

I suppose they figured out we have a slow-motion WMD going off in the white house


46 posted on 04/01/2015 10:22:39 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: ansel12

The mere thought of Russian zombies is terrifying


47 posted on 04/01/2015 10:26:33 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wait, what?

The President told us, over and over, in rather condescending, dismissive, and ridiculing terms, that Russia isn’t a threat...


48 posted on 04/01/2015 11:28:17 PM PDT by BlueNgold (Have we crossed the line from Govt. in righteous fear of the People - to a People in fear of Govt??)
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To: publius911

‘____________what day this is.’
Yup.
Aware of it all day - - -


49 posted on 04/02/2015 12:01:10 AM PDT by USARightSide (S U P P O R T I N G OUR T R O O P S)
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To: Nowhere Man
I know there would be scattered, isolated communities in Siberia east of the Urals that would survive, but they would most likely be on their own for a long, long time.

Just to play devil's advocate: Russia has invested massive amounts of resources in creating huge, underground facilities for the event of nuclear war. These underground complexes are the size of cities, and are apparently well stocked (I would take all public information with a grain of salt, of course), and are apparently designed for both military and civilian populations. These are not mere bunkers -- they are essentially well-stocked underground cities.

Second, a primitive economy is generally more tolerant of overwhelming shocks than more advanced economies. People are generally used to a certain state of poverty; they are more self-sufficient (by necessity); and they won't have hordes of people wholly unsuited to a more primitive existence (the vast majority of US citizens would fare quite badly if the economy fell apart -- most people don't even know how to darn their own socks, let alone feed a family without going to a supermarket). In much of Russia, life would go on pretty much as it is now, since they are largely independent of the larger economy.

Third, they should have no real fear of China. They could nuke China into oblivion (especially with the way their population is clustered), and can resort back to their underground cities should China try to retaliate.

Fourth, while obviously people in rural and semi-rural areas would fare reasonably well, for a while, there would be a lot of survivors in the cities and suburbs. Basically, it is almost inconceivable that American society wouldn't splinter. If you think that this country has major divisions now ...

By contrast, Russia would be housing much of their urban population underground, with the more rural areas already relatively self-sufficient; barring a major disaster in their military and police, they would have little difficulty maintaining order (relative to the US).

Russia never bought into the idea that nuclear war was unwinnable, or that it was an extinction event. Unfortunately, we fell for that hook, line, and sinker. This puts us at a tremendous disadvantage, should it ever come to that. While they prepared, we listened to fools. I just hope we never pay the price for our hubris.
50 posted on 04/02/2015 12:38:09 AM PDT by jjsheridan5 (The next Ronald Reagan will not be a Republican, but rather a former Republican)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Top Russian analyst advises blowing up Yellowstone in paranoid editorial

This Russian jerk isn't worth any attention. He's far from being a "top Russian analyst" of any kind.

51 posted on 04/02/2015 1:10:34 AM PDT by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Luckily for the Russians the Obama bomb will be far more destructive with a lot less fall out for them.


52 posted on 04/02/2015 4:22:26 AM PDT by crusadersoldier
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To: Army Air Corps

That’s very kind of you to say. :-)


53 posted on 04/02/2015 4:25:49 AM PDT by arasina (Communism is EVIL. So there.)
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To: eyeamok

“He also compared America’s penal system to “Hitler’s state machine,””

I wonder what he thinks of the Russian gulags?


54 posted on 04/02/2015 5:58:46 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Are they lIEbertarians?


55 posted on 04/02/2015 11:33:15 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bkmk


56 posted on 04/03/2015 1:02:35 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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