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Standing Up To The Gay Gestapo: Right Vs. Rabid
Self | 4/2/15 | Me

Posted on 04/02/2015 12:20:34 AM PDT by xuberalles

Any time a Christian organization or business owner is confronted by a liberal fascist, the Gay Gestapo, they need only say this: my salvation is far more valuable to me than your incessant desire to force me into accepting a deviant and immoral lifestyle.

The truth is most Christian businesses never inquire or care about their customers' personal lives. Yet, some activists are hell bent on politicizing their sexuality and enjoy creating a contentious conflict of interest. If you already know we have irreconcilable views then your only purpose here is to initiate contempt and discord. Do I demand pork chops from a Halal butcher or lecture swingers about the scriptures? Of course not. I support everyone's right to live as they choose, that is the premise of America, but I do not have to agree with homosexuality or violate my faith by catering to it. That is the essence of religious freedom. Unless you enjoy being told what you like or how to think, please kindly return to your high horse and re-educate yourself to the term "sentient" being.

My life is not dependent upon helping the LGBT community feel better about themselves; especially when they show little or no regard for my faith or my family. If you refuse to be tolerant of other views, what exactly are you tolerating? Perhaps you should ask Muslims why gays are killed for merely existing by those Islamic nations your liberal utopia openly embraces. Unless you don't believe the Holocaust was the greatest tragedy in human history, I suggest you return to threatening the lives and livelihoods of Indiana businesses and Christians nationwide to satiate your sense of enlightenment and entitlement. You are the bigot, my friend.


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: christian; gayagenda; homosexualagenda; indiana; religiousfreedom
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1 posted on 04/02/2015 12:20:34 AM PDT by xuberalles
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To: xuberalles
Gay People suffer from a mental illness. You know it I know it They know it. We have decided that they have a functional mental illness, or at least we did.

I am starting to think that fashion sense and musical theater are not important enough to not put them in mental institutions.

2 posted on 04/02/2015 12:28:32 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: xuberalles

More like standing up for the Constitution but the left would never know that! I will pick my candidates to vote for by their actions regarding this leftist attack and their reaction to it.


3 posted on 04/02/2015 12:29:29 AM PDT by Deagle (ui)
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To: xuberalles

Good luck with that.
I never thought I`d be the doomsayer, but freedom of speech and frredom of religion are dead.
If you don`t believe me,ask “Memories Pizza”.


4 posted on 04/02/2015 12:32:22 AM PDT by Washi
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To: Jim from C-Town

Please keep silly/unsupported beliefs to yourself! We are talking about judicial action here, not your personal beliefs. It’s okay to think as you do but do not try to put them into the marketplace of ideas when they involve government. Thank you,


5 posted on 04/02/2015 12:35:18 AM PDT by Deagle (ui)
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To: Deagle

No. I don’t believe I will.


6 posted on 04/02/2015 12:49:44 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Jim from C-Town

Heh, did not actually believe so but at least I tried.. You have some unusual beliefs but I at least respect them. Not so when it come to the justice system - a different matter.


7 posted on 04/02/2015 12:54:01 AM PDT by Deagle (ui)
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To: Washi

“Good luck with that.
I never thought I`d be the doomsayer, but freedom of speech and frredom of religion are dead.
If you don`t believe me,ask “Memories Pizza”.”

Every Christian business would have to stand up at the same time.
The risk of going out of business would probably be pretty high not to mention the negative press.

JMHO but that’ll never happen because at the end of the day money talks and there’s too much risk.


8 posted on 04/02/2015 1:12:06 AM PDT by snarkybob
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To: Deagle
It is hardly an unusual belief.

Homosexuals are disordered. They have disordered thoughts and attractions.

They are more likely to be alcoholics, drug abusers, clinically depressed, suicidal and this can not be traced to the idea that they are not accepted by society.

Any cursory look at the lifestyle and activities that homosexuals chose to engage in would bring one to the conclusion that they suffer from a mental illness.

Not all mental illnesses are debilitating. They function and can function in society. At least that was the thought process in 1973 when Homosexuality was removed from the DSM as a mental illness. Not that long ago.

It is only since 1990 that the World Health Organization decided to no longer classify Homosexuals as mentally ill.

How has society benefited from these declassification's. Not homosexuals, society?

You see insanity is holding that gender and sex are changeable (transgenderism) But sexual desires like Homosexuality are unchangeable to the point where some states will not allow a gay person to seek treatment in order to help change his unwanted desires.

What next? Requiring a person who believes himself to be Napoleon invade Russia? A requirement to plant and water a person who believes he is a tree?

At what point is society not required to accept or even tolerate the insanity of a incredibly small minority.

9 posted on 04/02/2015 1:13:37 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: xuberalles

LGBT activists sincerely believe that conservative religious people are Nazis and KKK, meaning they can do whatever they want to hurt you.

Just as the Nazis programmed their followers to see Jews and others as “subhuman”, those who have religious beliefs about gay marriage and homosexuality are now relegated to “subhuman” status by LGBT activism, supported by Big Government, Big Media and Big Business.

Its insanity and it cannot be reasoned with.


10 posted on 04/02/2015 1:35:08 AM PDT by Nextrush (OBAMACARE IS A BAILOUT FOR THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY)
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To: Jim from C-Town

Actually don’t disagree with some of your statements but it has little bearing during trials about the Constitution.

You and I are welcome to our beliefs but it does matter when the laws are made that contradict these beliefs. Then you do have to side with the law and the Constitution, even if you think that those making these decisions are against our Constitution.

We all have some fixed beliefs that may contradict the Government but eventually, we have to go along or chaos will result.


11 posted on 04/02/2015 1:38:11 AM PDT by Deagle (ui)
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To: xuberalles

Homosexuality IS NOT normal.


12 posted on 04/02/2015 1:53:39 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("I want to be America's first, historical, male first lady." - Slick Willie)
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To: Deagle

The Left does not care about any law which goes against their vision of “how things should be”. They either agitate for it to be changed, or ignore it. As long as we don’t do likewise, then ‘change’ will only occur in one direction.

It used to be that business owners could hire whom they pleased, and do business with whom they pleased. Then people said you could not discriminate based on race, or sex, and now “sexual orientation”. Well, guess what? When you dictate what business owners are not allowed to dicriminate against, you eventually lose ALL right to choose who you deal with. Next will be anti-discrimination for cross dressers. Then pedophiles. And on.


13 posted on 04/02/2015 1:54:39 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: Jim from C-Town

Gay people never bothered me much until now. But there rabid demands to be accepted as natural and normal is going to do them in. Frankly, I am starting to hate them. They seem to be having a hard time living with their deviance which is partly why they demand that we believe that they were born gay instead of the truth ... that they learned the behavior and can’t escape it.


14 posted on 04/02/2015 2:12:08 AM PDT by AdaGray
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Sorry to say that all of this has happened lately!

Years ago, I never gave it a though about playing golf with my black co-workers, nor Mexican co-workers. We went out to dinner, golfed, bowled, drank excessively, etc...

Today, things have changed for the worse. I would be afraid to be out with blacks and Mexican nationals. The idea is ridiculous maybe but it has been instilled in me by this Administrations lawlessness. I can understand why whites are not comfortable walking alone in a black neighborhood. Did not use to be so clear-cut. Things have gotten much worse in the last 10 years or so...


15 posted on 04/02/2015 2:24:28 AM PDT by Deagle (ui)
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To: xuberalles
It's been the goal of the Old New Left orthodoxy, our de facto "establishment," running the entertainment-industrial complex, to drive a wedge between nominal and actual Christians, to make of the latter a political minority and anathema, since at least 1984. That was the year Walter Mondale and Geraldine Ferraro gave voice to their belief that the "separation of Church and State" meant "Bible-believing Christians" had no place "forcing their beliefs on the rest of us."

Ronald Reagan's answer to this tactic was expressed by him at the influential 1984 Prayer Breakfast speech on the opening days of that year's Republican Convention in Dallas. "Politics and religion are, of necessity, related," he said.

The electoral vote that year illustrates better than a thousand columns how this doctrinal difference played out, at a time when the Legacy Media orthodoxy was no more sympathetic with "the Christian Right" than it is today. That repudiation by the American voter did not change the dogma of the Old New Left of course, which is no less strident on their bigoted beliefs than were the Nazis were on "the Jewish question," even as the Allied armies surrounded Berlin in 1945.

Its a matter of faith, not of holy reason but forged in the fires of hell itself, and therefore immune from reasonable proofs.

Because another of the Old New Left's beliefs is in government being the final arbiter of "Society," and because they also believe the latter to be a closed system, like creation without a Creator, and perhaps also because the ranks of those in mass movements are typically at war against individuality (especially their own, belonging to an unwanted self, in need of annihilation) - explains their vehement striving against any Christians being at the Table of their imaginary "Society."

They actually believe "Society" and "culture" and government are all, in some way, one closed system, one thing. Reasonable people, and the non-reactionary Christians who think among them, know there is much beyond this subjective "Society," much that is above and also below it, also. Aspects of these broad generalizations can help explain the odd worship of "consensus" on the part of people who pride themselves, above all else, on their open-mindedness.

I intend on not being shamed, on not accepting their assumptions, their attitudes about progress, which seems more about passing fancies with regard to fashion - regardless of their attempts to institute a militia of fashion police. And that will remain my attitude long after these Jacobins set up any Reign of Terror. Resistance is never futile when God and His Heaven are included in one's perceptions, even if that perception arises from merely allowing merely for the possibility of a "God and His Heaven."

The most neglected battlefield in any culture war, it seems to me, is the field between our ears and in our hearts. There is also another ground that the Old New Left is desperate to exclude, and that Eternal Backdrop is already well won, and therefore all their "victories" are hollow.

I shall not be moved.

16 posted on 04/02/2015 2:35:41 AM PDT by Prospero (Si Deus trucido mihi, ego etiam fides Deus.)
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To: Deagle

I would suggest that every business owner that provides an “artisitic” service such as wedding cake design, wedding floral arrangements, etc. should cease providing delivery and set-up for any of these kinds of events. Do a contract that says you will provide the product, (In the case of cakes without personalized writings and ornaments). My contract would require the customer to arrange the pick-up and set-up of the product at their expense. Photographers are at a totally different situation and I do not know how to structure that resolution. As for other professionals such as medical providers who do not wish to be forced to perform abortion or sex change surgery, (yes this will be next), I would suggest a sign on the business door and on all paperwork that the patient has to sign that makes it clear that these are not services that they offer at any time.


17 posted on 04/02/2015 4:06:42 AM PDT by usnavy_cop_retired (Retiree in the P.I. living as a legal immigrant)
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18 posted on 04/02/2015 4:50:02 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Jim from C-Town

Every homosexual I know (and yes I know or have known a few) has a “messed up” life. There is maybe one exception to this in my experience. The rest of them are dealing with crazy stupid relationship issues, legal trouble, family problems, etc etc. Yes, I see the same kinds of things in my fellow heterosexual family and friends. However the problems and issues seem less severe, less prevalent, and transient rather than chronic. There has got to be a correlation there.


19 posted on 04/02/2015 5:12:26 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: xuberalles

“The truth is most Christian businesses never inquire or care about their customers’ personal lives. Yet, some activists are hell bent on politicizing their sexuality and enjoy creating a contentious conflict of interest.”

Pretty much says it all. Your use of “hell bent” was ironically appropriate.


20 posted on 04/02/2015 5:21:52 AM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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