Posted on 04/12/2015 3:58:09 AM PDT by IChing
On the first day we saw the North Charleston, South Carolina, shooting video of Walter Scott by Officer Michael Slager we were as shocked as everyone. However, as research now indicates there is much more to the story.
What we cover here in the latest update might just change the entire way the story continues…
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My understanding is that if a person unsuccessfully uses deadly force against an officer, a subsequent attempt to flee does not de-escalate the situation and the officer is within the law shooting the person in the back because the officer does not know if the person is merely fleeing in search of a more advantageous position to resume the deadly attack.
This is a huge taser problem. Remember the BART shooting a couple years ago. The officer actually says “Taser, taser, taser” then shoots the guy with his pistol. Many agencies have mandated cross draw for taser, but I would like to see a move towards weak hand draw.
How would the officer know the man wasn't just moving to a more advantageous position from which he could resume the attack?
I certainly know more than you do.
If Scott was firing the Taser then the officer may be justified in defending himself. If Scott was carrying the Taser away then it could be argued that he posed a danger to others justifying use of the doctrine of the Fleeing Felon.
Nice try...but he was carrying a black taser...not a yellow one...
And that is straight from the OP’s source
And what does it mean if slager moved the Taser and placed it by scotts body?
he assualted the officer, one felony right there....and, if he shot that cop with a tazer,no jury will convict. I know i wouldn’t. Man, these cops are trying to police these animals, yet they keep getting slammed for it, from the whitehouse on down, You can sure tell a democrat is in the whitehouse.
as far as reloading the taser goes, if there was more than one cartridge in play the officer would have had to have reloaded. In addition to the darts, the cartridges are loaded with a bunch of paper discs serialized by the cartridge. So many that you can't clean them all up. From the dispersion you should be able to tell which direction the weapon was fired.
Well before a democrat got in office the SCOTUS ruled on the use of deadly force and the use of force in general. There is a grey area around the officer’s perception at the time, but those standards are the ones in play.
Here's an idea for thugs.
Don't attack cops. Because you may (rightly or wrong) get shot.
heres a test you can try right now, at this moment. Go outside, go find the first cop u see, and try and take his tazer/ gun...see what happens.
Is a taser a deadly weapon?
My understanding is that the taser is not a deadly weapon.
If so, then no deadly force was used by the suspect Walter Scott, under the conjectural situation described.
The suspect would have to threaten to grab the cop’s gun for there to be a threat of deadly force.
According to the cop, so far, the suspect only grabbed, or tried to grab, the cop’s taser.
“So are you claiming the Mr Scott somehow had a spare cartidge on him for some reason?”
Spare is in the butt end of the handle.
Since the suspect is dead, the allegations against the suspect will remain allegations, and never be determined at trial by a jury of the suspect’s peers.
Therefore, no felony (or misdemeanor).
Fruitvale BART Station, Johannes Meherle, cop, Oscar Grant, victim.
Meherle was charged with 1st degree murder, but the charges were reduced to that of involuntary manslaughter by the jury.
Prosecutorial overreaching seems like part of the DA MO for cases such as these, when the real problems are much higher up the food chain. IMHO.
Another recent poor taser training case here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3278280/posts
Uh.
I tell you. Ah, this is something that may make a difference.
If that is in fact his own taser darts in him, then I may need to rethink this.
I am still not sure what to make of him shooting the man as he ran away. That seems wrong to me.
Does shooting a police officer with his own taser bring into play the Fleeing felon rule?
I don’t know, I am going to have to read this very carefully now.
Wrong. The police academies throughout the nation pound this in recruits heads. If your Taser is taken away from you by a suspect or if the suspect has a personal Taser you may use DEADLY FORCE on the suspect.
Personally I think this cop is slime and committed cold blooded murder because he was pissed. Without a video he would have gotten off without a doubt. They will convict him of something, but he might have legal wiggle room.
Does it make any sense to that that he would plant evidence right in front of the eyes of another cop?
An according to the only other eyewithness, Santana, that didn't even happen.
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