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Need Windows 7 help - Disk Boot Failure
11 May 2015 | Eric Pode ot Croydon

Posted on 05/11/2015 8:29:18 AM PDT by Eric Pode of Croydon

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To: demshateGod

Well I have never bought an Apple product, not that I have anything against their products or their quality,I just never felt I had enough disposable income to spend on things like theirs.


21 posted on 05/11/2015 9:53:48 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon
1 (other HD)
3 Boot HD
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4 (other HD)
5 Optical Drive
6 (other HD


If you can't get to the appropriate repair options/command prompt to run bootrec.exe /fixmbr, and bootrec.exe /fixboot, I might try pulling the sata cables off of all drives EXCEPT my boot drive. Then test to see if it boots. If it boots, plug in the sata cables one at a time and test until you encounter the issue.
22 posted on 05/11/2015 10:56:50 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

Borrow someone Windows 7 pc and create a repair disk.

Steps with photos.
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/5409/create-a-system-repair-disc-in-windows-7/


23 posted on 05/11/2015 11:26:30 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: ShadowAce; Abby4116; afraidfortherepublic; aft_lizard; AF_Blue; Alas Babylon!; amigatec; ...
FReeper requests Windows 7 help ... PING!

You can find all the Windows Ping list threads with FR search: search on keyword "windowspinglist".

Thanks to ShadowAce for the ping!!

24 posted on 05/11/2015 11:27:16 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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To: demshateGod

These day an Apple Watch can do the same things a Windows 7 laptop with an i7 processor and 8 gigs ram


25 posted on 05/11/2015 11:33:07 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon
Boot to your install CD/DVD and select Windows recovery.

When you get to the boot prompt, you want to run bootrec. Check out this walkthrough:

BOOTMGR is missing in Windows Server 2008 R2

This is for Server 2008 R2, but the kernel for Windows 7 is identical to Server 2008 R2. The instructions will work the same.

26 posted on 05/11/2015 11:46:23 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: parcel_of_rogues

Yep. It’s always preferable to use the advanced tools on the install disk to re-partition and format the drive you wish the OS installed onto.


27 posted on 05/11/2015 11:49:54 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: mmichaels1970; Eric Pode of Croydon
If you can't get to the appropriate repair options/command prompt to run bootrec.exe /fixmbr, and bootrec.exe /fixboot, I might try pulling the sata cables off of all drives EXCEPT my boot drive. Then test to see if it boots. If it boots, plug in the sata cables one at a time and test until you encounter the issue.

Yup... That's it - and maybe move the boot drive to SATA 0 too.

If your PE is USB, that can sometimes cause trouble since it is trying to fix the boot on the USB itself, rather than the effected System drive - It doesn't sound like that is your issue, but make sure there is *nothing* IDE/ATAPI/USB bootable connected except the target system drive, and the DVD you boot the repair disk into, with the DVD BEHIND the system drive in succession...

Sounds like you may have lost a boot sector, but more probably Win blew chunks at shutdown and ate it's own MBR - I see that a lot, and I sure do wish I knew why...

28 posted on 05/11/2015 12:16:00 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: AppyPappy

Windows 8.1 is not an upgrade if you live in the real world.

Its just another attempt to find people that are stupid enough to trust the “cloud.”
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29 posted on 05/11/2015 12:24:11 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: rockrr

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>> “It’s always preferable to use the advanced tools on the install disk to re-partition and format the drive you wish the OS installed onto.” <<

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Very good advice.

Always reject “overlay” type partition manipulators, as they frequently leave you subject to impending catastrophe if any part of the overlay boot data becomes corrupted.
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30 posted on 05/11/2015 12:31:12 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

It works for me. Better than Windows 7 anyway.


31 posted on 05/11/2015 12:31:20 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you are not part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

Hard drive crash. Hope you backed up.


32 posted on 05/11/2015 12:58:30 PM PDT by raybbr (Obamacare needs a deatha panel.)
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To: roamer_1
My SATA ports on the mobo are numbered 1-6. I assume that "SATA 0" in your post translates to SATA port 1?

Sounds like you may have lost a boot sector, but more probably Win blew chunks at shutdown and ate it's own MBR

I agree. Since I can get to the BIOS with no problem, run a chkdsk on the boot partition, and copy that partition to another drive with zero errors, I an hoping I can get by here without a format/reinstall.

Thanks for reading the post - some on this thread obviously did not.

33 posted on 05/11/2015 1:28:48 PM PDT by Eric Pode of Croydon (I wish someone would tell me what "diddy wah diddy" means.....)
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To: dennisw

“These day an Apple Watch can do the same things a Windows 7 laptop with an i7 processor and 8 gigs ram”

Can you post to FR with an Apple watch?


34 posted on 05/11/2015 1:33:16 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: editor-surveyor

“Windows 8.1 is not an upgrade if you live in the real world. Its just another attempt to find people that are stupid enough to trust the “cloud.””

I run 8.1. It is an upgrade. And I don’t use the cloud with it.

OTOH, Apple has tied their users to the cloud since 1998 ...


35 posted on 05/11/2015 1:34:52 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator; editor-surveyor

I upgraded from W7 to W8.1 - skipped W8.

W8.1 is faster and faar more stable than W7.

BTW, simply checking 1 option box, my Ultrabook boots direct from power-on to desktop ~ 20 seconds.

AND, I rarely ever see the “tile” start screen.


36 posted on 05/11/2015 2:01:48 PM PDT by newfreep ("Evil succeeds when good men do nothting" - Edmund Burke)
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To: newfreep

“BTW, simply checking 1 option box, my Ultrabook boots direct from power-on to desktop ~ 20 seconds.”

Just timed my desktop. 12 seconds!

“AND, I rarely ever see the “tile” start screen.”

8.1 has tiles? Just kidding. My wife uses mostly tiles on her laptop.


37 posted on 05/11/2015 2:23:34 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon
My SATA ports on the mobo are numbered 1-6. I assume that "SATA 0" in your post translates to SATA port 1?

Yep... Sorry, I am old enough that PATA is stuck in my head. First port is best... SATA is arrayed in pairs... Try second pair if first pair fails...I don't think it is controller or such though, because you have read access to the drive... Do you have write? Try copying a text file TO it somewhere...

So I am thinking the repair program is not looking at the proper drive... They all still seem to default to 'first drive found', like always... Or at least eliminate that possibility and go from there... thus eliminate all unnecessary IDE/SATA/ATAPI/USB (including controller cards)and focus the problem, see?

I HAVE had problems with Windows repair running from USB, though not always... but it is best from CD.

I agree. Since I can get to the BIOS with no problem, run a chkdsk on the boot partition, and copy that partition to another drive with zero errors, I an hoping I can get by here without a format/reinstall.

Right. I get it - I use another gizmo for MBR repair. I don't have it with me on my thumb or laptop (I'm on my route), but I will try to find it, or tell you when I get back home to my bench... Paragon or Acronis should have the capability... Got any partition managers around?

The drive ain't encrypted is it? No BIOS pwds or goofy stuff?

38 posted on 05/11/2015 2:49:37 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon
[roamer_1:] Try copying a text file TO it somewhere...

NM... You have write or chkdsk would be bawlin...

39 posted on 05/11/2015 2:57:12 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

At grc.com, Steve Gibson has a downloadable lifesaver for all HDDs.

SpinRite 6 can find and fix a slew of problems. I’ve used it to keep my hard drives in good shape. Some are way beyond their expected lifetime.

Check it out for yourself.

Hope this helps for next time.


40 posted on 05/11/2015 9:25:00 PM PDT by Trot (keeping HDDs running)
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