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Iraqi troops drop weapons and flee as ISIS takes Ramadi
Canada Free Press ^ | 05/18/15 | Dan Calabrese

Posted on 05/18/2015 8:41:47 AM PDT by Sean_Anthony

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“...Strategy to defeat Islamic State is working,’ US Department of Defense claims...”

*ROFLMAO*


21 posted on 05/18/2015 10:23:22 AM PDT by Boonie ("Nuke 'em all...Let Allah sort 'em out...)
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To: oldbrowser

We are in agreement.


22 posted on 05/18/2015 10:44:39 AM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (In an Oligarchy, the serfs don't count.)
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To: Zhang Fei

also people that love to fight have probably run off and joined isis while guys just looking for a gubmint paycheck join up with the Iraqi army. if you lack a warrior spirit you are useless in a battle. worse your are a liability


23 posted on 05/18/2015 11:32:25 AM PDT by Shamrock498
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also people that love to fight have probably run off and joined isis while guys just looking for a gubmint paycheck join up with the Iraqi army. if you lack a warrior spirit you are useless in a battle. worse your are a liability

Michael: Maybe. But it occurred to me, the soldiers are paid to fight; the rebels aren't.
Hyman Roth: What does that tell you?
Michael: They can win.

24 posted on 05/18/2015 11:35:05 AM PDT by dfwgator
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I swear, Bagdad Bob got hired into this foolish Odumbo administration.


25 posted on 05/18/2015 11:36:10 AM PDT by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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if you lack a warrior spirit you are useless in a battle. worse your are a liability

Iraqis have a warrior spirit, and that's the problem. Warriors are opportunists - they fight for loot, women and land. Soldiers fight for pay, and they are drilled to think of retreat as dishonorable and (counter-intuitively, to most non-ISIS Arabs) being worse than death. This probably has to do with the fact that many warriors are part-timers for whom war is just one of many things they do to feed their families, whereas soldiers are professionals for whom war is a calling. This was why Roman soldiery kept brushing aside farmer-warriors from neighboring regions until they began funding and training professional soldiers of their own.

If past stories about corruption in military formations apply in Iraq's case, the odds are that significant numbers of Iraqi soldiers exist only on paper - to draw salaries and money for supplies for the officers who made up those names. And where actual personnel are present, they are short on supplies because their superiors took the money and used it to pad their bank accounts. And the likelihood is that very little realistic training occurred - because ammunition costs money. And in many cases, many of the "soldiers", where the names represent real people, are civilians who never showed up for work.

The Kurds are supposed to be a cut above. I saw a training video that showed recruits jumping through burning metal hoops. I figured there and then that it was a shambolic mess. And I was right - ISIS rolled right over them until coalition aircraft showed up.

26 posted on 05/18/2015 12:05:29 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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It’s been shown that a lot of the leaders of Isis are former Baathist from Iraq. It explains their brutality and why the Iraqi army flee from them. However, it still makes them cowards. They drop weapons and flee leaving women and children behind to be slaughtered and worse.

I wish there was a way to save the Christians from over there and then nuke the rest. But I have no idea how we could do that.


27 posted on 05/18/2015 12:22:31 PM PDT by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God! ROLL TIDE!!)
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i agree. a genocide is being committed. im sure in 20 years someone will do a documentary on it and everyone will be saying “why didn’t anyone do something about it?” when the answer is obvious....look who is in charge


28 posted on 05/18/2015 1:46:10 PM PDT by Shamrock498
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I agree with what you are saying but when I referred to warriors I wasn’t thinking “barbarians” which is kind of what you are describing when you spoke of the romans pushing aside farmer-warriors. when I referred to warrior spirit, I was talking about the “warrior ethos” of a professional soldier. if you lack that professional mentality you are nothing more than a barbarian (like youre saying)....I think we are saying the same thing


29 posted on 05/18/2015 1:50:28 PM PDT by Shamrock498
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