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Putin and the Neoconservatives
Last Days Watchman ^ | Julio Severo

Posted on 05/24/2015 7:05:24 PM PDT by juliosevero

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1 posted on 05/24/2015 7:05:24 PM PDT by juliosevero
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Russia and the United States are engaged in a profound ideological confrontation—one that isn’t widely understood in Western Europe or even at the White House. It began in February a year ago. President Vladimir Putin of Russia found himself engaged in what seemed a simple defensive battle against American intervention in Ukraine. He is now under siege by the U.S. and NATO.

And I stopped reading this nonsense right there.

2 posted on 05/24/2015 7:11:44 PM PDT by FreeReign
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I don’t think Russia would have suffered such a large numbers of dead if Ukraine was indifferent to the situation or even pro Russian. It seems like they have fought pretty valiantly so far. and if neo-cons were truly in charge of anything I would assume there would be a strong border here


3 posted on 05/24/2015 7:19:04 PM PDT by dp0622
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People who idolize Putin and Russia as some kind of a moral utopia are idiots who probably know nothing about Russia or spoken with an average member of their degenerate population. Russia’s “moral crusade” is mostly directed outside to nationalists and right wing groups across the world, and not really something they do in their own country. It is part of Russia’s larger disinformation strategy to seduce the right wing in order to enable further Russian aggression against its neighbor. “Why should we oppose Russia’s invasion of Georgia, Ukraine, or the Baltics? Clearly he is a Christian nationalists just trying to protect his people from the globalists and homosexuals!”

Russia, in fact, not only has one of the highest abortion rates in the world, not only has rampant homosexual rape and forced prostitution in the military, all winked at by the officers; but also is a major hub for the global sex trade. Women are routinely abducted or conned in Russia and forced into sex slavery, even transported all across the world to work in brothels. In fact, the entirety of Russia is run not as a government of law and order as we know it in the West, but as a giant Mafia state. Even simple things like a license to drive cannot be done in most cases but by bribery. Businesses are encouraged to break the law, and, when successful, are subject to looting from local mafia crime lords who are also the official law enforcement and justice system.

Russia is not too far removed from Liberia or other African-states when we look at it from this angle. Even many Russians live in filthy soviet style apartment complexes, taking craps in the hallways, because most of the people there are unemployed and living off of government handouts.


4 posted on 05/24/2015 7:21:16 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: FreeReign

Putin is leftist when America is to the right and he is to the right when America is to the left, always manufacturing grievances like an abusive btchy spouse


5 posted on 05/24/2015 7:31:27 PM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall no)
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To: FreeReign

Putin is Alinskyesque, that is


6 posted on 05/24/2015 7:32:21 PM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall no)
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If America supports pro-family values, I support America. If Russia supports pro-family values, I support Russia. If they do not support these values, I do not support these nations.
7 posted on 05/24/2015 7:37:41 PM PDT by juliosevero
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To: FreeReign
Here's what you need to take away from this nonsense:

The French writer Michel Eltchaninoff suggests a comparison [of Putin's "new state"] with the “new state” created by Antonio Salazar in Portugal between 1933 and 1974, usually called fascist but, while authoritarian, should more accurately be described as conservative, religious and nationalist. It is a response to what Putin views as the decadent and “anthropocentric,” or egoistic and materialistic, modern West.

In other words, a little fascist authoritarianism is fine if it opposes the decadent and materialistic West. Just don't call it fascist, but conservative, religious, and nationalist and you'll be ok.
8 posted on 05/24/2015 7:40:21 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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Do you support a person who murders and jails his political opponents as long as he is “pro-family?” How about Fidel Castro?


9 posted on 05/24/2015 7:44:53 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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oh my, someone other than good ol’ Pat B. is STILL talking about those nefarious “neocons”

gee, we must still be living in 2003 perhaps, or what?


10 posted on 05/24/2015 7:51:36 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Of making many books there is no end, and much study wearies the body.")
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We supported George W. Bush because of his generally pro-life stances, even though his neocon decision of invading Iraq, not Saudi Arabia (where the 9/11 terrorists came from), resulted in complete disaster for Christians.

Before the U.S. invasion of Iraq, there were over 2 million Christians. Today they number less than 300,000. Could not Bush have been concerned about the Christian fate over his invasion? Could not he have intervened to help them?

Those are very good questions.

11 posted on 05/24/2015 8:04:03 PM PDT by mac_truck (Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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And what about the bunny rabbits? Don’t forget the bunnies.


12 posted on 05/24/2015 8:05:47 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: faithhopecharity
gee, we must still be living in 2003 perhaps, or what?

Well, after all,

The Russian president claims that his real political ambition is to restore to Russia the culture, religion and historical mission of its past.

LOL
13 posted on 05/24/2015 8:08:52 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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This is a repost of William Pfaff's column--Putin and the Neo-Conservatives--and I believe it's still under copyright by the International Herald Tribune (iht.com), even though Pfaff has since died.
14 posted on 05/24/2015 8:09:14 PM PDT by OK Sun (Freedom is not just another word.)
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The Christians in Syria (dating back to when they were all Jews following rabbi Jesus)....were at least protected under the Assads.
Today, under Obama’s Iranian/Saudi/Qatari-backed ISIS, Christians are not only being driven out, they are getting crucified, bazookaed, and burnt alive in metal cages.

Not good.


15 posted on 05/24/2015 8:12:51 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Of making many books there is no end, and much study wearies the body.")
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WELL, about Putin....
I am NOT at all confortable with him, not supporting him.

But if any of his talk about Christian faith, Russian culture, etc... is at all accurate, it will be a step for the better.... both for Russia and for our long-term relations with Russia.

provided, of course, Obama’s Transformation of Amerika can be stopped and reversed (repatriation of enemies he’s importing en masse, etc.)

otherwise, Russia may return to Christianity at the very time USA is being Transformed into yet another IslamoNazi Krapistan?

just meandering a bit.
it is late and I am going to bed.
I am not arguing anything, just that the olde gray cell tends to meander as the moon rises, is all.

take it or leave it, its ok. No fights from this quarter.
Good night,
fhc


16 posted on 05/24/2015 8:16:27 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Of making many books there is no end, and much study wearies the body.")
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oh my, someone other than good ol’ Pat B. is STILL talking about those nefarious “neocons”

Oh yeah, there's no "neocons"! No, even though they call themselves "neocons". Their publications are self-identified as "neocon". They are proud to be "neocons". But, no. There are no "neocons".

You sound like the Italian groups saying that the Mafia is a myth.

You think the Weekly Standard and the "conservatives" in the Washington Post and NPR are real conservatives?

Fools like you are what let these ex-communists infiltrate and warp the GOP.

Hope you have as much fun voting for Rubio as you did voting for McCain. And thank those "nefarious neocons". Who don't exist.

17 posted on 05/24/2015 8:25:01 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Peace On Earth! Purity of Essence! McCain/Ripper 2016)
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Reading some of the stuff on the Russian "independent" sites, you find some interesting stories: Vladimir Putin, Frontline Soldier. This one's about Putin's father during the war.

18 posted on 05/24/2015 8:29:40 PM PDT by OK Sun (Freedom is not just another word.)
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To: Forgotten Amendments

Ahem. Neocons exist. A neocon conspiracy to intervene in Ukraine, and seeking “revenge?” Please.


19 posted on 05/24/2015 8:32:27 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Forgotten Amendments

I view wash post and npr as 99 percent leftist not conservative. And I have no plans to vote for mr Rubio. You appear to have confused me with someone else. Thanks


20 posted on 05/24/2015 8:45:05 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Of making many books there is no end, and much study wearies the body.")
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