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Gtame of Thrones S05E07 Discussion Thread

Posted on 05/25/2015 10:12:23 AM PDT by martin_fierro

This is the Game of Thrones S05E07 discussion thread. If you haven't seen this episode yet there may be spoilers here.


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To: martin_fierro

Ahh—That makes more sense. I knew she looked familiar, but couldn’t place her.


41 posted on 05/26/2015 7:04:35 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Salamander; JoeProBono

That scene is one of my favorites!


42 posted on 05/26/2015 8:31:23 AM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: KC_Lion

“What is Gold and Name to a Religious Fanatic?”

This question reminded me the Iron Throne is deep in debt to The Iron Bank of Braavos. In the first season, Ned Stark was named Hand of the King and was surprised to find the Iron Throne was deep in debt. Later, when Tyrion became theMaster of Coin, Littlefinger advised Tyrion to remember that it’s only numbers.

The Iron Bank of Braavos needs a Lannister to control the Iron Throne to get its money bank. Cersei had to be removed because she could care less whether or not The Iron Bank of Braavos gets their money back.

If Tommen doesn’t work out, the Iron Bank of Braavos will probably install Arya Stark on the Iron Throne to get their money back. If not, Tyrion is aware of the Iron Throne’s debt and may advise Dany to assure the Iron Bank of Braavos she will pay the debt if she takes the Iron Throne.

Stannis has already ask for a loan from Iron Bank of Braavos and he was rejected. Also, Stannis was unable to articulate a plan to pay of the Iron Throne’s debt if he took the Iron Throne.


43 posted on 05/26/2015 8:36:53 AM PDT by SvenMagnussen (1983 ... the year Obama became a naturalized U.S. citizen)
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To: SvenMagnussen
"Stannis has already ask for a loan from Iron Bank of Braavos and he was rejected. Also, Stannis was unable to articulate a plan to pay of the Iron Throne’s debt if he took the Iron Throne."

Stannis was rejected initially by the Iron Bank, but they changed their mind after the speech by Ser Davos.

44 posted on 05/26/2015 12:44:49 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: ConjunctionJunction

Okay, I was thinking Stannis went broke when he retreated from the Battle of Blackwater Bay. Apparently, the Iron Bank loaned Stannis money after that to hire the pirate a second time.


45 posted on 05/26/2015 1:59:32 PM PDT by SvenMagnussen (1983 ... the year Obama became a naturalized U.S. citizen)
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To: SvenMagnussen

Yes, he lost a lot of men and ships at the Battle of Blackwater Bay, but he (Ser Davor) was able to convince the Iron Bank to give him money to hire more men and ships. In the most recent episode, they spoke of some mercenaries who deserted them due to the weather. Stannis mentioned something about them only valuing money.


46 posted on 05/26/2015 2:13:11 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: ClearCase_guy
I'd have to say that Daenerys was particularly repelled regarding the level of violence in the slave pit, but came to note that the helmeted Jorah used style to immobilize his attackers. He knocked them out, not killed them.

Daenerys was watching this unfold and seemed to take a lot of interest in this hero who could defeat without killing and one could see her blood start to boil. Oooops, the helmet comes off and she's dead in the eyes.

47 posted on 05/26/2015 2:53:00 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: SvenMagnussen; ConjunctionJunction; Salamander; JoeProBono; ShadowAce; martin_fierro; ...
In regards to The Iron Bank.

While I know the power of Banks, believe me I work at one.

I am actually reminded of a Scene from The Dark Knight Rises

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY7stDTWjRI I Paid You are Small Fortune, And this Gives you Power over me?

Money, Banks and Authorities doesn't count for much in the face of True Belief.

The Tyrells/Iron Bank is meaningless to a Believer like the High Sparrow.

48 posted on 05/27/2015 7:00:06 AM PDT by KC_Lion (This Millennial is for Cruz!)
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To: KC_Lion


49 posted on 05/27/2015 7:13:21 AM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: ClearCase_guy; ConjunctionJunction; martin_fierro

I’ve finished Book 5, and maybe I missed something, but I just don’t see what the point is of Jorah taking Tyrion to Dany. What possible leverage could she hold with having Tyrion?

I know he’s a wanted man in Westeros, but so what? Dany could turn him in, for what...gold? She wants to (eventually, hopefully) conquer Westeros, not partner with it...what good would this bargaining chip do?

I just don’t see the point of it. What am I missing?

(Note: this is besides the point that I subscribe to the “Tyrion is the 3rd head of the dragon” theory)


50 posted on 05/27/2015 9:51:34 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("I'm not questioning your honor...I'm denying its existence." - Tyrion Lannister)
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To: ShadowAce
I knew she looked familiar, but couldn’t place her.

Her face was all that was left < |:P~

51 posted on 05/27/2015 10:30:02 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: ConjunctionJunction
"Would you care for some Milk of the Poppy for that BURRRRRNNNNNNNN?"
52 posted on 05/27/2015 10:31:36 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: ItsOurTimeNow

I don’t think it’s about leverage. It could be about revenge (the Lannisters/Baratheons are responsible for killing most of her family and removing the Targaryans from power).

It’s more likely about knowledge/intel. Tyrion has nothing now, and he is blamed for the death of King Joffrey. But, he has lots of knowledge about Kings Landing, the Lannisters, as well as military forces and alliances in Westeros. Tyrion hates his sister and wants revenge on her. It’s entirely plausible to me that he would want to join with Dany to help take Cersei down.


53 posted on 05/27/2015 12:48:36 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: KC_Lion

Very true, but lets not forget about the Faceless Men. Who do they work for? Would the Iron Bank hire them to assassinate people who get in the way of getting their money back? Probably wouldn’t influence the High Sparrow, but it could possibly be a way to get rid of him if he proves to be too bothersome.


54 posted on 05/27/2015 4:11:01 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
"What possible leverage could she hold with having Tyrion?"

Prince Oberyn, before he was killed by the Mountain, spoke with Tyrion about the House of Dorne being the only House to resist the Tagaryeon Dragons. Tyrion, a student of history and well read, knows the Dornish are a problem for Dany if she decides to take the Iron Throne with her dragons. Tyrion knows Dany needs an alliance with the Dornish. Tyrion tried to establish an alliance with the Dornish for the Lannisters by sending Myrcella there. But Cersei and Jamie are trying to get her back because the Lannister/Dorish alliance was destroyed when the Mountain killed Prince Oberyn.

Tyrion is fully aware of the massive debt incurred by King's Landing to the Iron Bank. If Tyrion can convince Dany to establish an alliance with the House of Dorne and articulate a plan to pay back the debt to the Iron Bank, then I think Dany will win the Game of Thrones.


55 posted on 05/27/2015 6:01:42 PM PDT by SvenMagnussen (1983 ... the year Obama became a naturalized U.S. citizen)
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To: SvenMagnussen

Good logic, Sven! Thanks for sharing.


56 posted on 05/28/2015 2:14:38 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: SvenMagnussen

Makes sense. Thanks Sven!


57 posted on 05/29/2015 9:12:03 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("I'm not questioning your honor...I'm denying its existence." - Tyrion Lannister)
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