Hitler’s Strident Anti-Marxism

Last Days Watchman ^ | Julio Severo

[ClearCase_guy]

But you do recognize them both as Left-wing, yes?

[FreedomPoster]

See my previous post containing an important quote from a contemporaneous observer who was a trained economist.

Hayek nailed it 70+ years ago.

And Lucy, have you read The Road to Serfdom? If not, it’s an egregiously large hole in your background.

[Lucy Hamilton]

The biggest difference between Communism and Fascism, is that Fascism failed and Communism succeeded.

As we can now witness all around us, with Obama, the UN and the EU, not to mention the Heretic “Pope” Francis, all have now fully revealed themselves to be Marxist-based.

Which is why everything they’ve touched has now turned into chaos and ultimate disaster.

Heck in my country, the opposition party just elected a full-on Marxist as it’s leader, and in much of the press, this is considered NORMAL.

[re_nortex]

Hitler was a liberal in all senses of the word: A non-smoker, anti-semite, non-drinker, pro-union, anti-God, anti-gun, pro-animals, vegetarian and a civil service family background. Scratch just beneath the surface and it's clear that Bernie Sanders and Adolph Hitler are indistinguishable.

[DiogenesLamp]

“Well Hitler was a Socialist”

And the panel of Professors on the stage ALL laughed at that member of the audience and the majority of the audience laughed at them as well.

Academia is heavily left wing, and they deliberately teach contrary to Hitler being a Socialist. They cannot admit that their ideology of Central Control and Command economies is the same ideology as that of Adolf Hitler.

If you compare what the National Socialists did as a matter of Policy with what the regular Socialists did, you will find very little difference between the two.

I can recommend an excellent book on this subject, and in it you will find all sorts of evidence for the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei being the ideological twin of Communism. The book goes into the entire history of Socialist movements in Europe and tracks them through various groups and people to include the branches that became the Nazis and the branches that became the communists.

The book is written by a brilliant Historian who not only heavily researched it, but lived through the events in question. Among the gems you can discover in there is that the Original Nazi flags (Swastika on red background) were created by taking Hammer and Sickle Communist flags, and sewing swastikas on to cover up the communist symbols.

They had access to these flags because they were a branch off that same group of communists.

The name of the book is "Leftism Revisted" and it was written by Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn.

Excellent book. I cannot recommend it highly enough.

[Lucy Hamilton]

Absolutely not.

Oxford Dictionary definition of Fascism:

“An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization. (In general use) extreme right-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant views or practices”

“The term Fascism was first used of the totalitarian right-wing nationalist regime of Mussolini in Italy (1922–43); the regimes of the Nazis in Germany and Franco in Spain were also Fascist. Fascism tends to include a belief in the supremacy of one national or ethnic group, a contempt for democracy, an insistence on obedience to a powerful leader, and a strong demagogic approach”

So Oxford Dictionary states NO, National Socialism NOT Left-Wing, therefore as I’ve mentioned already in this thread, Communism is radically different than Fascism.

BUT IF you want to argue with the Oxford Dictionary or just pretend the Oxford Dictionary is involved in some sort of “conspiracy” to purposely lie to people about this issue....then email them and take it up with them.

[Lucy Hamilton]

Yeah, whatever.

See my post where I post DIRECTLY from the Oxford Dictionary.

[Fiddlstix]

Hitler was simply power hungry.....
And...
Crazy!

[ClearCase_guy]

German National Socialist Workers Party -- you are swallowing the Leftist lie that this was a rightwing party?

You expose yourself. As you said above:

The biggest difference between Communism and Fascism, is that Fascism failed and Communism succeeded.

What you mean is: The Fascists were the Left-wingers who failed, so we tossed them aside and call them Right-wingers. The Communists are the Left-wingers who succeeded, so we always make sure to lie to people and tell people that the Communists are totally different from Fascists.

It’s an old trick played by Marxists.

As another poster already told you: Hayek had the truth of it.

[wally_bert]

Did Hess ever say much?

[DiogenesLamp]

Oxford Dictionary definition of Fascism:

“An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization. (In general use) extreme right-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant views or practices”

Are you familiar with the origins of the political meanings of "right" and "left"?

[FreedomPoster]

The Left made a concerted effort post-WWII to distance themselves from the Nazis, despite the many ideological similarities. One of the ways they did this was to label the Nazis “right wing”, and to label their opposition on the American right as Nazis.

The reality is there is nothing about either totalitarian ideology, Nazism or Communism, that is “right wing” in an American sense. And the Socialists are useful idiots for both, as you can see in Hayek’s commentary.

[Lucy Hamilton]

Yes but it seems a lot of people aren’t.

[Doche2X2]

A more important question other than debating the mechanisms of totalitarian regimes who equally wished to control the people by different means, is how they came into power. About 10 years ago I met an elderly woman who said she had received her PhD in Berlin the same year Hitler came into power. I asked her how it could be that such intelligent people as the Germans could possibly fall for such an ogre as Hitler. She said, “You’d be surprised what people will do when they think everyone else is doing it. By the time we figured out what was going on, it was too late to do anything about it”. Sound familiar?

[FreedomPoster]

Why do you attribute infallibility on matters political to a dictionary whose authors are likely Leftists? Why would you do that?

Please take the time to carefully consider the arguments being made here, as they are logical. Appeals to authority are not impressive and are a fundamental logical fallacy.

[Tea Party Terrorist]

You’re absolutely right. But there’s no arguing against the “Hitler was a socialist” contingent on these forums.

[donna]

Benito Mussolini, after breaking with the international Socialist movement, formed his own Socialist party. In order to give it the appearance of “Italian” legitimacy, he borrowed a page from ancient Rome, where “fasces” (a bundle of rods) was a symbol of unity and authority.

That’s all the word means. In all the volumes written by Mussolini, there is not a single definition of “Fascism.”

The idea to apply this word to Germany’s National Socialists was hatched by Josef Stalin in an effort to conceal the obvious ideological link connecting his Soviet Socialism with Hitler’s German variety.

Source:
http://www.balintvazsonyi.org/washtimes/wt012197.html

[pieceofthepuzzle]

“Heck in my country, the opposition party just elected a full-on Marxist as it’s leader, and in much of the press, this is considered NORMAL.”

Not just in your country (UK I'm guessing, with Jeremy Corbyn taking over Labour). Here we have Bernie Saunders leading in some polls as democrat candidate for the presidency.

What's happened has been incremental, with entirely insufficient pushback. They (the Marxists) were losing - punctuated by the fall of the USSR, but we were entirely wrong to think the fight was over.

[Lucy Hamilton]

I refer you to this from the Oxford Dictory definition of Fascism:

“Fascism tends to include a belief in the supremacy of one national or ethnic group,”

My Continent is being invaded en masse by an Islamic horde, Muslims, an ethnic group.

Everyone who is anyone, who speaks about saying that we really don’t think this is a good idea is being called either “a Far-Right extremist” or a member of the “Far-Right”, so anyone who is everyone who doesn’t agree to this invasion thus is being called a Fascist.

So if this is the case, if there’s no difference between Communism and Fascism, why is the slur exclusively “Far-Right”, when aren’t they saying “Far-Left” as well? That’s right because Far-Right and Far-Left are DIFFERENT.

It’s because anyone who refuses to cheer of my Continent being invaded by an ethnic group called Muslims invading an historically Christian Continent MUST obviously be a Fascist.

Absolutely absurd situation....I’ve seen CHILDREN being labelled “Far-Right collaborators” during the insanity that has gripped Europe.

Half of Europe is now considered “racist” “Far-Right” “Fascist”, because half of Europe doesn’t want Islam in Christian Europe.

[Rock N Jones]

” impression that Communism and Fascism are the SAME?”
“absolute 100% nonsense, historically nonsense as well.”

And the difference is?