Posted on 09/14/2015 5:21:59 PM PDT by juliosevero
I’ve repeatedly pointed out the differences in this thread already.
The Oxford Dictionary? That's an avowed leftist rag. Far better would be for you to read this book:
It reveals about the liberal sodomite agenda pushed by Hitler and his gang of Nazis. Need I add that Hitler had a artistic flair (or so he thought)? He was a classic leftwing metrosexual.
You left out the fact that the Nazi party was founded by a bunch of Homosexuals in a Homosexual bar.
This was a restaurant frequented by top Nazis, including Hitler and SA chief Ernst Rohm. The owner, Karl Zehnte, was an homosexual associate of Rohm and Heines and was killed during the Night of the Long Knives in 1934.At the door of the Bratwurstgloeckl, a tavern frequenquented by homosexual roughnecks and bully-boys, Roehm turned in and joined the handful of sexual deviants and occultists who were celebrating the success of a new campaign of terror. Their organization, once known as the German Worker's Party, was now called the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, The National Socialists German Worker's Party -- the Nazis. Yes, the Nazis met in a 'gay' bar.Lively and Abrams The Pink Swastika: Homosexuality in the Nazi Party.
Yes and if you delve deeper you’ll find that Mussolini threw the Socialist bit overboard once he took grip with Italy.
Same with Hitler....if Hitler was a Socialist, then why were all the Socialists along with Trade Unionists* rounded up and sent to the camps?
*what you call Labour Unions.
*Sigh*
I mean just forget that homosexuals were targeted and sent to the camps.
Thanks for a bit of reason.
It’s 2.53am here in England, I have a doctors appointment later today.
So I must go to bed....I’m letting you know this as I have manners.
Russia and Germany fought... not because Marxism and Fascism (Italy was, Germany wasn’t, but let’s stick with their stupidity) were opposed to each other... but because both were ruled by power-mad tyrants, bent on controlling Europe (and later the world). They were the two biggest bullies on the block, and as Nature will have it, they MUST, at some point, go at each other.
And on Drugs! Specifically Methamphetamines. You should watch the documentary "High Hitler". It makes a powerful case that Hitler's paranoia, delusions and irrationality are very likely the consequences of a serious meth addiction.
Yes, there were several gay men in high positions in the Nazi Party... that did not make it a Pro-Gay movement. They were tyrants and vicious people, who happened to be gay. They did not care one whit about a Gay Agenda, or about gay people, for that matter.
Decades ago, my friends and I would discuss how Hitler came to power. "How could the Germans not see what was happening?" we would ask. The last eight years has made it very plain to me how Hitler came to power.
Indeed, the regime that this one most closely resembles is that of the Nazis, including the usage of Brownshirts, and right down to the obsession with race.
You have to realize – the academics WANT to say good things about socialism and communism and they WANT to say bad things about Fascism. Fascism lost the war. Everyone saw the pictures from Auschwitz. You CAN’T say anything good about Fascism. But that is a word game. Left-wing ideology is being pushed – if the academics cannot praise Fascism, they will praise Communism. It makes no real difference – the Left-wing, collectivist idea is being pushed. Who cares what the label is?
Note also that Hitler the Fascist had close ties to Islam. Now Islamics are moving into Europe. The Left-wing collectivists seem fine with having more Muslim neighbors. BUT anyone who is on the other side of the argument is being called a Fascist.
You have to ask yourself WHY the anti-Muslim people are being called Fascist. Well, it has nothing to do with the ideology of Fascism. Hitler had lots of good things to say about the Jew hating Muslims. But the Left-wing collectivists in Europe today seek a Muslim invasion and if you are on the other side of that argument, they will label you a “Fascist”. It’s their bogeyman word that means “People we don’t like”.
Fascism is, today, virtually meaningless because any honest use of the term makes Left wingers uncomfortable. Fascism is simply a flavor of Socialism, and the Socialists don't like to remember that.
That's a well-worn leftist life (similar to the myth of the Southern Strategy here in the states). Without the support of sodomites, the SA/SS would have never existed. And don't forget that Hitler never had sexual relations with a woman. As "doing it" with other men, let's just say it's a sure thing that he blazed that particular trail for hussein.
Sorry about a mistake in my post, Lucy, it should be “leftist lie” instead of “leftist life”.
And what is it that the NAtionalsoZIalistiche did that was different from a socialist?
There is a freeper that has on his wall an amazing set of information and links to the characteristics shared by the Nazis and the Communists. If I can remember his name, i'll go mine his wall for material in this discussion.
They are alike in virtually every measurable way.
To characterize Hitler's Germany as anti-Marxist is the height of propaganda, IMHO. National Socialism was wrapped in very similar collectivist rhetoric, with the Jews as the villains, of course. But it was all about "the People" and "workers" and so on.
Nazi Germany used fascist tactics to accomplish some of their goals, but the goals themselves, IMHO, paralleled communism in almost every way.
The end result was totalitarianism, backed by democratic mobs, and cheered on enthusiastically by the People at large.
Germany could never have accomplished the industrial and military goals that it did without the passionate support of the domestic "mob" of collectivist nationalists which fueled it. The fact is, until they started experiencing some serious setbacks, the German people bought into Socialist Tyranny lock, stock, and barrel.
As I mentioned, the reasons Nazis hated communists was because they were both competing over the exact same malleable collectivist mind.
Marxism has many flavors, but the fact that Nazis didn't embrace Soviet-style Communism doesn't mean that they weren't effectively Marxist in both theory and practice.
Volkswagen, anyone?
Furthermore, consider this part of the name: National Socialist German Workers' Party. The Nazis hated the Jews because they equated them with the capitalist class. Their sympathies were with the so-called "workers". In summary, the Nazis were union goons much like the IWW was here in the states.
*what you call Labour Unions.
Von Kuehnelt-Leddihn addresses that very question in his book. More or less, "sibling rivalry."
He regarded them as a threat to his rule. He didn't want any underground movements challenging his authority, and as these people were well known to be involved with a rival party similar to his own, he simply didn't want to have to deal with them. It was easier to just lock them up than it was to worry about them.
Same with Hitler....if Hitler was a Socialist, then why were all the Socialists along with Trade Unionists* rounded up and sent to the camps?
Sunnis kill Shiites even though both are Moslem.
Same reason Collectivists kill Collectivists.
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