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With Half of the Students Chronically Absent, New Truancy Law Would Strip Welfare From Families
Michigan Capitol Confidential ^ | 10/13/2015 | Tom Gantert

Posted on 10/16/2015 7:08:58 PM PDT by MichCapCon

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To: dp0622

They ARE your problem since you’re paying for them and they are changing our society for the worse.

The attitude of “not my problem” is so prevalent, more in the last 30 years. Public school...not my problem since I send my kids to private school/homeschool. Hmmm...so then don’t bitch when the curriculum has changed to mirror the hard left (and it has in both public and private schools).

Not my problem how society is so crude and rank and degraded and perverted...yet it is since it affects your life too.

Not my problem that the media follows the agenda of the hard left...#blacklivesmatter, #marriageequality, #transgenderequality, #womensissues, blah blah blah.

They are your problem since they affect your life/society/our government.


41 posted on 10/16/2015 8:02:29 PM PDT by Twink
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To: tbw2

which military? ISIS?


42 posted on 10/16/2015 8:03:24 PM PDT by Bernard (The Road To Hell is not paved with good results.)
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To: Leaning Right

Wrong. It’s the 15% who are trying to live according to society’s rules/God’s rules. The other 85% not so much.

This naivete is a part of the problem.


43 posted on 10/16/2015 8:05:24 PM PDT by Twink
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To: MichCapCon

What on earth is the point of having kids who don’t want to go to high school go to freaking COLLEGE?


44 posted on 10/16/2015 8:06:39 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown Are by desperate appliance relieved Or not at al)
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To: Twink

When I say they are not my problem, i mean it in a harsher term.

That means they dont get a penny for anything, not food, not shelter, no money.

Charities can take them in.

They ARE my problem in this situation, you’re right.

They shouldn’t be my problem.

I DONT CARE if they dont have food and shelter. Go to the churches.

We ARE NOT in this together. That is communism and it never works out.

We have the right to PURSUE happiness, not have it handed out.

This country was founded on an independent streak a mile wide. What’s happened?


45 posted on 10/16/2015 8:08:06 PM PDT by dp0622
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To: driftless2

And the rest of the black Americans that aren’t in this group are the minority. Maybe 15% and that’s giving a huge benefit of the doubt.

Our society perpetuates this. Our government perpetuates this. Our Media not only perpetuates this, they actively encourage it.

It’s not just The Black Underclass. It’s the Culture.


46 posted on 10/16/2015 8:10:00 PM PDT by Twink
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To: MichCapCon

A week ago being nicely retired and fancy free, I went to the movie on a Tuesday at 12:30 pm. In front of me was a Grandma, Mom and two school age kids getting their tickets and every bit of pop corn and candy known to mankind. I guess it was a school sanctioned field trip. Wasn’t sure if it was payed for by EBT though!


47 posted on 10/16/2015 8:11:00 PM PDT by Empireoftheatom48 (God help the Republic but will he?)
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To: MichCapCon
Because white kids have computers to doctor the records.


48 posted on 10/16/2015 8:12:08 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dp0622

There’s actually a FEW Amendments that state they are INDEED illegal/unconstitutional.

Might want to let your rep and judges know /s

I’m with you here. If they could not care to ensure their brood is educated, on the public dime (while those NOT on welfare pay for their own PLUS some), then that would indicate they care not the ‘generosity’ of the taxpayer.

Pull the plug, rip it out by the root, salt the Earth and NEVER let it fester upon the body politic again...


49 posted on 10/16/2015 8:12:55 PM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: Bernard

Military/reform schools


50 posted on 10/16/2015 8:13:29 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: i_robot73

Some may call us ruthless, but agreed on all accounts.


51 posted on 10/16/2015 8:13:54 PM PDT by dp0622
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To: SkyPilot

This essay sounds like it was written by someone who has no clue about growing up and living in the city. Frankly, I was shocked that anyone, the writer, didn’t know about this stuff.That is was surprising to him/her. Totally made the essay/writer a joke.

I get that some don’t know/realize what it’s like in the inner city/city/urban areas but really, this writer sounds like a child. Or a bleeding heart liberal.


52 posted on 10/16/2015 8:17:06 PM PDT by Twink
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To: dp0622

Charity comes from those by CHOICE. What we have here is involuntarily/indentured servitude.

Easy fix: People do what’s in their best financial interest. When they know the gravy train is STOPPED; the BS as you posted WILL stop.

Else, you lock their (both ‘mom’ AND ‘dad’ up for negligence) and lower the 2x BS for adoption/fostering.


53 posted on 10/16/2015 8:18:27 PM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: i_robot73

Sounds good to me. From some of the responses I was getting, I was afraid some FReepers getting soft.


54 posted on 10/16/2015 8:20:19 PM PDT by dp0622
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To: Twink
Wrong. It’s the 15% who are trying to live according to society’s rules/God’s rules. The other 85% not so much.

I'm sorry, but I don't quite follow that. But I will tell you this: I don't know much about a lot of things. But I know a lot about urban public schools. I have decades of experience there. Not as some fancy consultant, but as an inner-city classroom teacher.

And in even the worst schools I've been in, 85% of the kids are good kids! They want to learn something, or at the very least get by. Yes, they are often lead astray by peer pressure. And yes, they are often not challenged to succeed due to the idiotic liberal school curriculum. But those 85% are decent kids, and they are being left to rot.

It is something money won't solve. It takes courage, courage urban politicians just don't have.

And sorry for the rant. It breaks my heart to see generations of kids lost like this.

55 posted on 10/16/2015 8:23:31 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: SkyPilot

This article states that white women teachers can’t imagine or control black students. WTF? How racist is that? It’s not that “white women teachers” can’t imagine or control a class full of black students...it’s that white liberal women can’t control them or understand.

Oh I can teach them, I can control them and their behavior isn’t shocking to me because it’s their behavior, not what the media, the government, the white guilters, are trying to portray. It’s the reality!

I find it shocking that it’s shocking to people, lol. This is what the culture is like and has been for at least 50 years.

We can’t teach them, control them, when we aren’t allowed to discipline them. And that is the bottom line.


56 posted on 10/16/2015 8:24:47 PM PDT by Twink
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To: MichCapCon

You don’t need an education or to be a productive citizen if the government is just going to hand you money every week.


57 posted on 10/16/2015 8:27:43 PM PDT by WMarshal (Either the mess gets fix or the Democrat Party and the Republican Parties will implode.)
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To: SkyPilot

“it did no good to try to quiet them, and white women were particularly inept at trying. I sat in on one woman’s class as she begged the children to pipe down. They just yelled louder so their voices would carry over hers.”

She BEGGED the children to pipe down...yeah begging works. Really? Their voices carried over hers? And she allowed that? Of course she did since she BEGGED them to pipe down.LMAO!

And we wonder why teachers can’t or won’t control their classes/have classroom management skills.


58 posted on 10/16/2015 8:28:52 PM PDT by Twink
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To: DannyTN

No offense, but it’s no wonder it’s all going to Hell in a hand-basket!

Instead of starting at the beginning, most ‘debates’/conversations/etc. start at the WRONG premise!

Pre-welfare and ‘War on Poverty’ (TM), this was NOT a problem. So, instead of removing these illegal and unconstitutional acts/programs/etc. people start shouting off ‘just bolt XYZ...’, or ‘...how ‘bout “this”? or THIS? or...’.

No, let’s tack on a few more reams of paper to the tax code, to give (by FORCE) taxpayer funds to those GOVT believes ‘deserving’ (aka will vote for their party)...NOBODY even BLINKS to think how each and EVERY step of that process (and more) violates 4+ Amendments ALREADY!?!?

KILL welfare. KILL property taxes. KILL the DoE+. KILL the unions. Make EACH AND EVERY PARENT PAY for the education of their own brood.

Truant? I could give a F*; that means mom/dad is paying for an empty chair and, at the least, the goober isn’t impeding the education of the ‘REAL’ students.

/rant off (sorry)


59 posted on 10/16/2015 8:31:54 PM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: dp0622

“I know this will sound hard to believe, the THREE gals when i was younger asked me to have a kid with them while we were dating.”

Very hard to believe.


60 posted on 10/16/2015 8:32:09 PM PDT by Twink
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