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Why it is a bad idea to accept Muslim refugees
Flopping Aces ^ | 12-09-15 | DrJohn

Posted on 12/09/2015 10:02:31 AM PST by Starman417

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Hundreds of thousands of Muslim refugees from the Middle East are pouring into western countries. Foolish western politicians are welcoming them with open arms, assuring us that Islam means peace. They have no inkling about the cultural compatibility of those they accept. President Barack Obama (whom I shall refer to as oBUMa from now on) even compared them to the Pilgrims on the Mayflower.

That is the most stupid thing oBUMa has said and he has said a lot of stupid things in his career. The Pilgrims brought Judeo Christian ethics which built America. These Muslims are bringing a set of ethics and cultural norms that are the causes of the social dysfunction in the Middle East today. They are totally incompatible with western values.

Democrats also have a hard time using the term ‘radical Islam’ to describe recent mass killings in San Bernadino and Paris. Some people like Ali Sina or Geert Wilders do not hesitate to blame Islam itself. So the term ‘radical Islam’ is already a softer term for it implies that the normal form of Islam is peaceful.

I think it is time to examine Islamic texts to see what role it plays in inspiring radical Islamists and the culture of Muslims. This is to see if it is a good idea to allow thousands of Muslim refugees into the country as what oBUMa wants.

Many of the refugees that oBUMa wants to accept are radical Islamists. While most of these radicals may not be violent, their beliefs make them incompatible as citizens of the west. .

What is radical Islam? My definition of radical Islam is the interpretation of Islamic scripture that engenders the following:

1) Hostility towards non-Muslims
2) Inequality between men and women
3) The killing of those Muslims who convert to other faiths
4) Slavery of non-Muslims captured in jihad
5) Waging jihad, or holy war, to spread Islam throughout the world.
6) Sex with young girls - as young as 9.

All these things have to change before the Muslim refugees can be accepted in large numbers. This would require Islam to be reformed. The problem is that all of the above are halal (permitted) in the Koran or hadiths. For those who do not know, the hadith refers to the words and deeds of the Holy Prophet Mohammad.

They were compiled by various scholars, the most important of whom were Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim. While the hadiths were written by men, Muslims believe that the Koran came from God himself and revealed to the Prophet. (In Christian terms, the Koran is equivalent to the Book of Revelations, while the hadiths are equivalent to the rest of the Bible. )

I will give you the references to verses in the Koran and Hadiths related to the above 6 points. This is to help you understand that Muslims who are steeped in their faith are incompatible with western values.

1) Hostility towards non-Muslims

This comes from verses such as this one:

Koran 4:144

"O ye who believe! Take not for friends (awliyaa) unbelievers rather than believers: Do ye wish to offer God an open proof against yourselves?"
According to Dr Tawfik Hamid, a Muslim reformer, many mosques in the Middle East would curse non-Muslims in the Friday prayers.

Koran 3:118

"O ye who believe! Take not into your intimacy those outside your ranks: They will not fail to corrupt you. They only desire your ruin: Rank hatred has already appeared from their mouths: What their hearts conceal is far worse. We have made plain to you the Signs, if ye have wisdom."
You can see from this verse in the Koran that unbelievers are described as people trying to corrupt Muslims and plotting their ruin. It surely will engender hatred in the hearts of Muslims towards unbelievers. No wonder, they curse unbelievers in their prayers, whom they believe are out to ruin them.

2) Inequality of the sexes which allows polygamy and wife-beating

In the west, men and women are considered equal. Wife beating is criminal in most western jurisdictions. But in Muslim cultures, women are usually considered inferior to men and polygamy is allowed. Wife beating is often tolerated.

Koran 4:3 allows a man to have up to four wives:

"And if you fear that you will not deal justly with the orphan girls, then marry those that please you of [other] women, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only] one or those your right hand possesses. That is more suitable that you may not incline [to injustice]."
"Right hand possesses" refers to slave girls.

There is also a hadith where the Prophet Mohammed preached that women are inferior to men, in intelligence and in religion. He said that the majority of people in hell are women! Here is the hadith:

Sahih Bukhari Vol 1, Book 6 Number 301

Once Allah's Apostle went out to the Musalla (to offer the prayer) o 'Id-al-Adha or Al-Fitr prayer. Then he passed by the women and said, "O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of hellfire where you (women)." They asked, "Why is it so, O Allah's Apostle?" He replied, "You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you." The women asked, "O Allah's Apostle! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?" He said, "Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?" They replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn't it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?" The women replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her religion."
Note that Mohammed thought women were deficient in religion because of her monthly periods! Since women are inferior, it follows that bad wives can be beaten. Here is the verse in the Koran that allows wife beating.

Koran 4:34

Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear, arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand.
This is still taken seriously though many imams, even in the west. An Imam in Spain, Mohammed Kamal Mustafa was jailed for 15 months for instructing his flock on how to beat their wives. This is definitely not compatible with western values.

3) The killing of those Muslims who convert to other faiths

Here is one of the hadiths on the death penalty for apostasy ie leaving Islam for another religion:

Sahih Bukhari Volume 9, Book 84, Number 57:

Some Zanadiqa (atheists) were brought to 'Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn 'Abbas, who said, "If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah's Apostle forbade it, saying, 'Do not punish anybody with Allah's punishment (fire).' I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah's Apostle, 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'"
One clever moderate Muslim theologian argued that the sentence can be carried out when the apostate is on his deathbed (when he is sick and old). This is to circumvent the law, but it does not repeal it. He dared not call for its repeal for that would mean he has overridden the Prophet.

4) Slavery of non-Muslims captured in jihad

There are many verses in the Koran, which refers to "right hand possesses" which means slaves. But here is a revealing hadith:

(Excerpt) Read more at floppingaces.net...


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: islam

1 posted on 12/09/2015 10:02:31 AM PST by Starman417
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2 posted on 12/09/2015 10:05:26 AM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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You’re kidding.

They ALL should be deported along with the assorted Mexicans and Muslims and the cretin who is called by some to be the president!


3 posted on 12/09/2015 10:07:28 AM PST by HomerBohn (Liberals and slinkies: they're good for nothing, but you smile as you shove them down the stairs.)
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The constitution is not a suicide pact
4 posted on 12/09/2015 10:37:57 AM PST by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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[[Why it is a bad idea to accept Muslim refugees]]

The reason is simple- Because NO other group of people have a higher tendency to answer the call to jihad when they are called upon to do so- and they have a PROVEN track record of turning rogue and becoming disloyal to their host nation- all over the world- This is an established pattern- It is NOT profiling- it is simply a fact that should be obvious to anyone

As well- The religion of Islam is NOT a peaceful religion- end of story- There may be peaceful muslism that practice islam, but the problem is that it’s simply too hard to tell which ones are truly peaceful, and which ones will at some point answer the call to jihad

One more point- IF there are so many ‘peaceful muslims’ then why aren’t there massive protests against the terrorist acts committed by muslims? Instead what we see are groups of muslims immediately coming out and accusing America of causing the acts- We see muslism in this country even, screaming hatred towards America- And we’ve seen the FACT that 80+% of the mosques In this country preach hatred towards the west and 30% of muslims (who show a rare moment of honesty) who admit they supported the actions of those who attacked in paris and even here in US-

Why the hell should we keep accepting them? There isn’t a group of people out there with more animosity towards us than those from the middle east- We are idiots if we keep accepting htem in en mass


5 posted on 12/09/2015 10:48:12 AM PST by Bob434
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