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National Review: It's Too Late to Dump on Trump
American Thinker ^ | 1/25/2016 | Robert Oscar Lopez

Posted on 01/25/2016 9:10:32 AM PST by Sioux-san

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Mr. Lopez is always worth the read. His money line for me: The authors acknowledge that these constituencies are angry, feel let down, view recent years as times of betrayal, aren't all that impressed by dogma right now, and are now open to someone, specifically Trump, though it might have been anyone who came along with new media savvy who doesn't even agree with their ideology at all but who represents a cathartic rebellion against the experts who've continually misled them.
1 posted on 01/25/2016 9:10:32 AM PST by Sioux-san
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To: Sioux-san

Well, the problem with that view is that all these angry people did not go to Cruz.

When you find out the answer to that, you’ll have the answer to “Why Trump?” (Hint: not just anyone could mobilize people like this).


2 posted on 01/25/2016 9:15:39 AM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Sioux-san

Where was the special issue to stop illegal immigration?


3 posted on 01/25/2016 9:16:36 AM PST by TigerClaws
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To: LS

yup why have primaries or even elections lets have a phone poll or 2 and maybe an online poll and winner take all.. that’s the ticket!


4 posted on 01/25/2016 9:16:47 AM PST by Bidimus1
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To: Bidimus1

Having polls is different than voting. But it’s also silly to dismiss polls.

You need to go through the process, of course. But that doesn’t change the outcome.


5 posted on 01/25/2016 9:20:42 AM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: LS
Obviously Cruz is not as media savvy.
6 posted on 01/25/2016 9:22:21 AM PST by deweyfrank
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To: TigerClaws

Exactly. NO ONE seems to be interested in answering what I think is (now) the most crucial question of this election: why are ALL these self-identified conservatives and “very conservative” voters moving to Trump and not Cruz?

It has to do with trust. So the follow up would be, “why don’t these people trust Cruz.” Answer that, and you’ll have a good insight into Trump’s popularity.


7 posted on 01/25/2016 9:22:33 AM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Sioux-san

this is a good article.


8 posted on 01/25/2016 9:23:15 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, R)
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To: deweyfrank

That’s not it. But at least you’re engaging the question.

Hint: Why don’t people think they can trust Cruz to get things done?


9 posted on 01/25/2016 9:23:30 AM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Sioux-san

I think National Review hands were forced when Sarah Palin endorsed Trump. They had to quickly step in to stop any momentum Trump gets from Palin endorsement. It was a knee jerk reaction


10 posted on 01/25/2016 9:25:49 AM PST by 4rcane
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To: Sioux-san

The last paragraph, “I support Ted Cruz and have many anxieties about Donald Trump. I hope Cruz gets nominated, but if Trump wins, I’ll accept that like the rest of the right-wing writers, I got what I deserved. I will carry on and take away crucial life lessons. And here’s to hoping that Trump’s lasting legacy will be the rebirth of a new conservative intellectual class down the road.”

I have concerns about both our leading insurgent candidates but will support either in the general election. The article has some good points. Somehow the Democrats as idiotic as they are, don’t trash their candidates who have mass appeal. They know that Sanders is a commie wack job who can’t win, but you don’t see them writing an entire magazine dedicated to destroying him or making nasty comments about those who support him.


11 posted on 01/25/2016 9:30:05 AM PST by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: LS

You know you can’t ask that question! See LS, according to the Cruz supporters, it’s simply because Trump ‘sucked all the oxygen out of the room’, or some version of that.


12 posted on 01/25/2016 9:34:14 AM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: LS
I believe Cruz would TRY to get things done, but the RINO’s in congress would team up with liberals to stop him.

And Cruz would let them, because he would not be willing to bend the constitution enough to bypass them.

This is where Trump is a completely different animal.
(and one of the reasons I am supporting Trump over Cruz)

Trump would NEVER allow congress to stop him.

Trump would willingly and delightful wield any and all power needed to achieve his desired ends.

Some people may be scared by allowing Trump this much power. But the sad truth is ... the LEFT is already wielding this much power, and if we are not willing to fight back with equal ruthlessness, we will be steamrolled.

13 posted on 01/25/2016 9:36:14 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, R)
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To: Sioux-san
The first flaw of the intelligentsia, and perhaps its most fatal, was the tendency to become a closed discussion club. Two movements - the free-speech and traditional-marriage movements - gave me glimpses into the internal problems of the echo chamber.

Yep, all they have done is talk, all talk no action. Hmmmmmm?

14 posted on 01/25/2016 9:37:24 AM PST by USS Alaska (Exterminate the terrorist savages, everywhere.)
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To: fireman15

You are VERY correct, these so called conservative elites NEVER dedicated a whole magazine against the conservativeness of Mitt Romney, or McCain I am sooooo disgusted with all of them, people I truly looked to for conservative thought!!! They are going CRAZY because Trump WILL NOT be owned by them!!! That is the entire problem with them the country be damned it is ALL about their cushy elite jobs just as it has been with our so called conservative house and senate!!! I support Trump MOSTLY because he is self funded!!!


15 posted on 01/25/2016 9:38:07 AM PST by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Bingo. This is the difference. The next question the Cruz people would have to brutally answer is “what evidence do you have that he would not be effective.”


16 posted on 01/25/2016 9:38:58 AM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

I know it’s hard for them. But poll after poll shows Trump is pretty much even with Cruz among the “very conservative” and leads huge among “conservative.” So, if I’m a Cruzer, I’d like to know why.


17 posted on 01/25/2016 9:40:28 AM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“Trump would NEVER allow congress to stop him.”

change first word to Obama.. is it still ok?


18 posted on 01/25/2016 9:49:06 AM PST by Bidimus1
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To: LS

I’m a Cruz guy, though Trump is my #2 choice.

Most of my extended family are over the moon for Trump, and when I suggest Cruz (though he is growing on them) until now I would just get a blank stare.

I believe this is for two reasons. One, until Trump came on the scene the media did a good job of freezing him out. Most people didn’t know he existed, the media essentially wouldn’t give him the time of day. What attention he did get was to be attacked by other Repubs.

Trump came on the scene and was able to shout and be heard over the press noise machine. Though he did “suck all the air out of the room” to an extent, he also actually helped Cruz in a way. The media could ignore Cruz, they can’t ignore Trump. Trump has, in a way, helped to clear a path for Cruz though obviously they are rivals.

Another issue is this: people don’t trust politicians. Trump doesn’t talk like a politician, whereas (to the ears of my extended family) Cruz does. Keep in mind that most people don’t follow politics that closely to know what battles Cruz has fought, or what Trump’s positions were a year ago. Trump is a plain spoken guy saying what people think. Cruz holds many of the same positions, and is a constitutionalist to boot, but doesn’t have the same persona.

For me, its very important that Cruz is a constitutionalist. For my extended family, its important that Trump will secure the border, and won’t back down from a fight. Cruz doesn’t either, but I don’t think they see that. They don’t trust any politician to do what he says he’ll do. I don’t entirely trust Trump, because he is in the end a pragmatist and a deal-maker on everything except the border; he is my #2 pick, though, because the border is that important.

I was very happy when Cruz and Trump were de facto allies. I’m sorry to see the truce end, though I suppose it had to end sometime.

You may see it differently, but this is more or less how I see it.


19 posted on 01/25/2016 9:59:02 AM PST by marron
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To: marron

You are very warm, but you’re not assigning enough blame/responsitiliby to Cruz.

It DOES have to do with “insider” status, even if Cruz was an “outside insider.” (He was relegated to the cloakroom I joke, but he’s still in the club). It has to do with not achieving anything in the Senate. It wasn’t that he wasn’t successful-—we all knew the numbers. But he didn’t even convince a good number of conservatives, like Sessions, Paul, Ernst, Johanns to go along with him, only Lee. So while to supporters he looks like, I don’t know, Joan of Arc fighting alone, or that scene of Davey Crockett swinging his club in the Disney movies, I think ordinary conservative voters picked up that he just didn’t get ANY support. Well, part of being a leader is you have to lead, but someone has to follow. If no one follows, you’re not a leader.

I think further that where Trump brings a business ethic—i.e., succeed or don’t. You don’t get credit for trying-—Cruz is still of the “I introduced a bill” mentality where he wants credit for trying. It’s not enough anymore. It may be VERY unfair, but the fact is, he’s being lumped in with ALL the GOP in DC as “going through the motions” of opposing Obama. Again, mabye unfair, but I do think that’s the perception.

Cruz also has the puritan problem. When you run as a “pure” candidate, ANY dirt will do terrible damage. Trump never pretended to be pure. Cruz has to run from the G-S loan, but Trump basks in his wealth and jokes that he gave $$ to all the candidates. He’s proud of his wealth.

In fact, I don’t even think the Canadian thing really had that much to do with anything. But I think it’s a mistake to pin all of Cruz’s problems on Trump “sucking the air out.”


20 posted on 01/25/2016 10:06:52 AM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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