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Did LaVon have a legal obligation to stop for the police?
Vanity ^ | 2/3/2015 | Jack Black

Posted on 02/03/2016 10:16:01 AM PST by Jack Black

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To: kiryandil
Apparently, in your odd little world, a shot fired doesn't mean more shots will be fired. ???!!???

I'm really trying to understand what the thinking is here.

It was reported by the women that a shot was heard. After that, Ryan Payne exited the truck and was taken into custody - no violence.

The truck continued to sit there for minutes with LaVoy fully visible and practically motionless in the driver's window. He wasn't shot.

Everyone else who had obeyed the LEOs was unharmed.

LaVoy decided to rabbit and off we go.

I can understand if they feared they might be shot at when they decided to bolt, but some claim they bolted because they were being shot at. Makes no sense given the above facts.

101 posted on 02/05/2016 4:01:24 PM PST by semimojo
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To: Gunslingr3

Lavoy Finicum was murdered. He was a true patriot, and will be remembered as the martyr he is. We will never forget his death, and will do everything in our power to make sure his sacrifice wasn’t in vain.


102 posted on 02/05/2016 4:16:16 PM PST by LeeClementineKenny (www.OathKeepers.org - Never forget the sacrifice of patriot Lavoy Finicum.)
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To: semimojo
Look, you can keep carefully trying to construct your strawman by leaving things out, but you have to deal with the totality of what was going on.

From post #40:

Prior to release of the FBI video Sharp stated that Payne had his hands and head out the window and was asking to let the woman out, and he was shot at.

Flashes are clearly seen on the video of the stop. Immediately after those flashes Finicum leaves. Whether those flashes are muzzle flashes, flash bangs, or something else I do not know. Sharp said that after being shot at they realized that the police "meant business" and that Finicum yelled that he was going to continue driving so that he could "talk to the sheriff."

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Ryan Payne was fortunate that he wasn't shot when he got out of the truck.

We don't know what his thinking was, just that he was "lucky".

It's illogical to argue that one shot was all that was going to be fired, because no one can predict the future.

One can infer from past events, which is what humans commonly do.

Perhaps we'll find out in the future why Payne thought he was buying a winning Lotto ticket. :)

It WOULD be nice if the law enforcement people you're so passionately defending would quit their stonewalling and release their videos with sound.

And give back the video camera that they confiscated from the truck - if it's actually worth anything, given the amount of time they've had to "work" on it...

103 posted on 02/05/2016 4:23:34 PM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: Jack Black

This article has photos of the roadblock site

http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/01/the_spot_where_finicum_died_bu.html


104 posted on 02/06/2016 5:19:27 AM PST by Ray76
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“It was standing room only at a meeting Tuesday night at the John Day Senior Center. Ammon Bundy, who’s led the occupation at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, was supposed to speak but got arrested enroute.”

http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/01/post_3.html


105 posted on 02/06/2016 5:34:47 AM PST by Ray76
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To: kiryandil

Ping to photos of the roadblock site

http://freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3392324/posts?page=104#104


106 posted on 02/06/2016 5:35:30 AM PST by Ray76
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Shawna Cox statements

http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/01/shawna_cox_refuge_occupier_des.html


107 posted on 02/06/2016 5:43:07 AM PST by Ray76
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To: Jack Black

In operations like these, I believe at the bare minimum; the Officer in charge should be dressed in a clearly identifiable uniform and vehicle.


108 posted on 02/06/2016 5:56:28 AM PST by yuleeyahoo ( Man does not control his own fate. The women in his life do that for him. - Groucho Marx)
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To: yuleeyahoo

ok


109 posted on 02/15/2016 9:35:38 PM PST by BlueMoose
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