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Myself | May 17, 2016 | Mike Suchman

Posted on 05/17/2016 11:05:42 AM PDT by TMSuchman

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For the ping list.

And as always thank you for reading & responding to this. Your thoughts are always wanted & desired.

1 posted on 05/17/2016 11:05:42 AM PDT by TMSuchman
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To: TMSuchman

Please add me to your weekly list. Thanks


2 posted on 05/17/2016 11:09:17 AM PDT by Sasparilla (Hillary for Prison 2016)
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To: TMSuchman; appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

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3 posted on 05/17/2016 11:18:31 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt ( British historian Arnold Toynbee - Civilisations die from suicide, not by murder.)
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To: TMSuchman

Thank you for posting. Was not aware that CWD was in any part of Arkansas.

Do I have permission to repost this elsewhere?


4 posted on 05/17/2016 11:19:16 AM PDT by GT Vander (Life's priorities; God, Family, Country. Everything else is just details...)
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To: GT Vander

Please spread the word every where loud & clear from the roof tops, the Church Steeples, and everywhere you can think of. Also check with your state’s dept of conservation on these type of topics. It is just one of the many ways of keeping ourselves & our families safe when the fecal matter hits the fan!


5 posted on 05/17/2016 11:38:09 AM PDT by TMSuchman
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To: TMSuchman

Good post.

Thanks for taking the time to spread this info.

Doesn’t it seem that we are being increasingly bombarded on many fronts with various diseases, infections, blights, parasites, invasive exotic species, etc.

CWD, EHD, deer warts, blue tongue, pseudorabies, citrus blight, TPPD palm disease, Lyme disease, zika virus, west nile virus, zebra mussels, sea lampreys, walking catfish, asiatic clams, Burmese pythons, Nile monitors, etc.

There is a lot more to contend with out in the wild or when trying to provide food than a generation or two ago.


6 posted on 05/17/2016 11:47:37 AM PDT by Iron Munro (If liberals were in charge of the oceans, in 5 years they would be vast water-less deserts)
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Iron Munro :" There is a lot more to contend with out in the wild or when trying to provide food than a generation or two ago."

Many Preppers and others figure that there is enough 'wild life' , and game animals to sustain themselves
and others during hard times - it ain't so !!

This article demonstrates that we will have other health considerations to take into account - or we jeopardize our own health , and that of our families .

7 posted on 05/17/2016 12:00:46 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt ( British historian Arnold Toynbee - Civilisations die from suicide, not by murder.)
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To: TMSuchman

and people wonder why pigs are trayf..


8 posted on 05/17/2016 12:15:07 PM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: TMSuchman
One thing I have found, especially for fowl, is never allow wild birds to hang around your flock and protect their food and water supply.

If you pasture this can be a bit of a challenge but most diseases are contacted by your flock in three ways, first is you not keeping them clean, inoculated and properly fed, the second is you bring in sick birds to your flock, always quarantine, the third is from wild birds.

Nature is ruthless and does not give a flip that you are trying to keep your flock alive and healthy.

Mixed flocks, such as turkeys, chickens, pigeons or quail can pass along diseases to each other. Because some may just be carriers quarantine is not always effective in keeping your flock healthy.

A mixed pastured flock can have both advantages and disadvantages.

9 posted on 05/17/2016 12:17:18 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: TMSuchman

Off the specific topic, but is a prepper topic: I have about a dozen cans of red feather butter that I am looking to get input on. I got half a dozen about six years ago, and the others about four years back. I know they list a two year shelf life, so I was thinking on cycling them out. Anyone have some input on that idea? I know I should just open a darn can and give it a try (I never have yet) but I keep forgetting to do that.


10 posted on 05/17/2016 12:31:30 PM PDT by Ladysforest (Racism, misogyny, bigotry, xenophobia and vulgarity - with just a smattering of threats and violence)
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To: TMSuchman

Thanks for posting.

Still another reason NOT to count on hunting and fishing for survival in the first year(s) after a breakdown.

Even without disease to contend with, the game supply will be gone quickly once desperate people start shooting anything that moves. I have no idea how long it will take for game populations to recover, but it could easily be many years.

Another factor is that the time spent hunting is time you are NOT defending your home. If you’re gone, who’s defending your home?

If you are lucky enough to get something, will some other hunter decide to take it? You might not even see them. If you’re dead they get the deer plus your gun and all your gear. From their perspective, what’s not to like?

If you get something, and don’t get shot yourself, you still have to field dress it and get it home. How many people have ever packed out a deer? How far?


11 posted on 05/17/2016 12:46:48 PM PDT by EternalHope (Something wicked this way comes. Be ready.)
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Ladysforest :" I know they list a two year shelf life, so I was thinking on cycling them out. Anyone have some input on that idea? "

I honestly don't know about the red feather product from personal usage, but as I recall, they use a canned tin , and not one of those "Lift and pull tabs".
Oils and fats turn rancid when exposed to oxygen
The two year date is a "Reccomended Use By Date" by the manufacturer.
I am in the process of using and donating all my "Lift and Pull Tab" cans because they are untrustworthy for long term storage.
I am storing regular off-brand store products that don't use the "Lift and Pull Tabs", even though they are made in the very same manufacturing plant under same conditions.
The can seal is my main concern for long term food storage, along with flavor and taste
I would contact the manufacturer or the distributor where you got the product at their toll-free number for specifics on expiration date and usage date.

12 posted on 05/17/2016 1:05:07 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt ( British historian Arnold Toynbee - Civilisations die from suicide, not by murder.)
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To: Iron Munro

Just wait until your neighborhood, your religious group, your race or your voting history identifies you as an “at-risk” population.

When it does hit the fan, the wildlife and livestock will be wiped out within days. Sadly, out of ignorance and stupidity, most of the meat will either be left on the dead animal or will not be preserved properly.


13 posted on 05/17/2016 1:12:50 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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the wildlife and livestock will be wiped out within days

I have far less confidence in increased numbers of hunters than most people on here. I do not think that non-hunters can bag much more than a few horses, mules, and an occasional cow. As for the regular hunters, most of them drive from the city or at least suburbs. There will be a whole lot less driving if things get ugly. I'm not convinced we'll see a huge drop in big game populations.

14 posted on 05/17/2016 3:09:34 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Somebody who agrees with me 80% of the time is a friend and ally, not a 20% traitor. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Well the info I have read is that the suggested use by date is two years from date of purchase (as long as purchase is made from a regular retailer of the butter). Regular canned tin. I have them stored at approx. 65+/- degrees year round downstairs.

My ONLY concern is the whole oils and fats thing. Red Feather is purported to be an excellent product. I think I will remind myself to open one of the older cans and have a look at the contents. Might feed some on a cracker to the hubby if it has a good appearance and no off odors. :) Just don’t know WHAT to do with them if they seem OK, but I don’t want to hold them any longer. Seems a shame to toss them if they are viable. Prepper problem!


15 posted on 05/17/2016 3:25:52 PM PDT by Ladysforest (Racism, misogyny, bigotry, xenophobia and vulgarity - with just a smattering of threats and violence)
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To: Pollster1

Hope you’re right.


16 posted on 05/17/2016 4:06:36 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Ladysforest

I’m sure it is fine as long as they’re sealed and you could smell if it is rancid.

I put stuff out at the side dumpsters near places homeless people hang out, they don’t look at dates.


17 posted on 05/17/2016 4:56:11 PM PDT by tiki
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To: Ladysforest

I bought a case of Red Feather Butter about three years ago. I opened a can and found it rancid. I assume the others are also rancid, but did not toss them. I plan to use them as oil lamps and/or heat sources for cooking or warming food.


18 posted on 05/17/2016 5:37:47 PM PDT by rw4site (Little men want Big Government!)
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YIKES. This stuff isn’t cheap either. Good suggestion for alt use.


19 posted on 05/17/2016 5:42:45 PM PDT by Ladysforest (Racism, misogyny, bigotry, xenophobia and vulgarity - with just a smattering of threats and violence)
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To: EternalHope

This is why we are forming prepper groups/communities. No one single person can do it all, these days. Much like the early human/primitive “mankind”/native “Indians”.

Some would go out & hunt, some would till the ground, others would tend the flocks & herds, while some would gather fire wood & water. All would keep an eye out for danger to the group.


20 posted on 05/18/2016 4:17:16 AM PDT by TMSuchman
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