New California Ammunition Law: Restrictive, Burdensome, Costly, Ineffective

Gun Watch ^ | 4 July, 2016 | Dean Weingarten

[marktwain]

Governor Jerry Brown has signed into law SB 1225.  It is a lengthy, extremely restrictive law regulating the sale of ammunition in California.  It is so restrictive, that it might not hold up in court.  Challenges to the law may have to wait.  The law only goes into effect *if* the very broad, very anti-Second Amendment proposition "Safety for All Act of 2016" is not approved of by the voters.  So this bill, and several others signed by Governor Brown, do not go into effect *unless* voters refuse to approve of the anti-Second Amendment  "Safety for All Act".

What the legislators and Governor Brown have done, is create a "we win - you lose"  scenario for Second Amendment supporters.  If they vote against the proposition, these extremely restrictive laws go into effect.  If they do not vote against the propostiion, the proposition goes into effect.  It is a lose-lose deal for the people of California.

If the proposition  does not pass, then the law will be phased in from 1 January, 2018 to 1 January, 2019.  Individual purchasers will not be constrained until 1 January, 2019.

The restrictions in the law are sweeping and costly.  The law is long and complicated.  Listed below are summaries of a number of the main points of the law.

1.  All ammunition sales to individuals are required to be face to face and shall require a background check.  A long list of occupational exceptions, exceptions for concealed carry permit holders, law enforcement, etc. will not be required to process the background check, but sales will be recorded. Vendors may charge a fee of up to $10 per background check.

2.  It will be illegal to purchase ammunition through the mail.

3.  It will be illegal for residents of California to purchase ammunition out of state, and bring it back into the state.   Ammunition purchased outside the state will be required to be sent to a licensed vendor in California.

4.  Non-residents may legally transport ammunition into and through California, but may not sell it in California, unless is is sold through a licensed vendor subject to a background check.  There are exceptions for sale to a direct family member, registered domestic partner, or hunting partner in quantities of no more than 50 rounds per month.

5.  All ammunition sales will be kept on a computer data base that will be checked against a list of people who have been ruled to be prohibited possessors of firearms.

6.  Nearly all private transfers of ammunition within the state of Callifornia will be required to be done through a licensed ammunition vendor, who may charge a fee for the process.

I expect a rush on ammunition in Nevada, Oregon, and Arizona gun shops over the next two and a half years.  Mail order sales to California will skyrocket.

That is if the "Safety for All" initiative (the anti-Second Amendment types are really good at Orwellian use of words) fails.  If the "Safety for All" initiative passes, the provisions above go into effect starting 1 January, 2017, according to discussion of the initiative on calguns.net.  That is only six months from now.

One thing the California law does not regulate is the reloading of ammunition, or the sale of components such as gunpowder for reloaders, projectiles, wads, cartridge cases or shotgun hulls or primers.  Gunpowder and primers have hazmat restrictions, but they could be ordered in bulk by gun clubs.  The sale of these items is unrestricted by California law. 

Reloading takes a small investment in tools and in the aquisition of skills, but it is not difficult.  I started reloading cartridges under supervision when I was 13.  I was doing it by myself at 16. 

I expect there will be a surge of interest in reloading in California.

A law similar to this one was tried nationwide in the 1970s and 1980s.  It was found to be so burdensome and ineffective, that even the BATF testified against it in Congress. 

It was repealed in 1986, through an enormous grass roots effort that forced the repeal to come to a vote against the will of the Democrat house leadership.

Charlie Rangel (D-NY, currently involved in numerous scandals) was acting Speaker when it passed. He managed to amend the bill to include the 1986 ban on production of automatic firearms for sale to citizens under the Natinal Firearms Act.  No crimes had been committed with that class of firearms for 50 years. After the rules were suspended, and the reform passed, Rangel rigged an amendment.  A voice vote was called for by surprise. It clearly lost, but Rangel rulled it passed. All was recorded on C-Span video. But that is another story.

This is another burdensome, ineffective law that the U.S. Congress could override as too restrictive of interstate commerce, if it so chooses.

The amount of ammunition used in crime is minuscule.  This law only burdens and punishes responsible and honest shooters.  It will easily be circumvented by lawbreakers.

©2016 by Dean Weingarten: Permission to share is granted when this notice is included.
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[Inyo-Mono]

Reloading may become very popular in California.

Been reloading for years.

[Vendome]

Guess we’ll be reloading but, I will buy one them fancy machines that automates the process.

[hardspunned]

2 months into the Clinton administration “unconstitutional” will only apply to climate change deniers, reparations shirkers and anti lgbtxyz actions or thought.

[ExTexasRedhead]

Going to court!

[Rurudyne]

Nulla materia sumptus, possum et ego operor.

... or ...

No matter the cost, I can, and so I do.

Should be the motto of all bureaucratic orginizations ... if they were honest.

[Freedom_Is_Not_Free]

The instant I retire, baby! The very instant. I am counting the months.

[Freedom_Is_Not_Free]

This is going to kill California gun shows. People will flock to Nevada gun shows for ammo and the California gun shows are going to soon be doll shows and beef jerky shows. They are going to go extinct.

[Henchster]

This is the old Daniel Patrick Moynihan law. He always said he supported gun owning rights so as to please the upstate NYers.

Then, in front of NY city types he would say: "We have a 100 year supply of guns in this country, but only a 100 day supply of ammunition. We just need to regulate that."

[Reno89519]

Exactly. Further, someone should start an initiative that says any gun or ammo law applies to ALL residents equally and end the exceptions for law enforcement.

[unixfox]

Illegals and illegal drugs have flooded Kalifornia.

They don’t want to stop that, but they think they would be able to stop ammunition from being sold and purchased on the black market?

YOU CANNOT FIX RETARDED

[i_robot73]

They left one major description out of the title:

INFRINGEMENT

In fact, it’s the ONLY one needed.

[Reeses]

Check out the Battle of Los Angeles 2016, time lapse of illegal 4th of July fireworks brought in from Nevada, mostly by Mexican immigrants. (https://youtu.be/B3Yxgiikgbw) Walking around the neighborhood was like being on a battlefield with heavy artillery going off in all directions. There was no need to go to a professional fireworks show because a free show was on every block. Only one cop car was briefly observed the whole evening and they had no impact. Amazingly only one house burned down that night. One interesting thing was a feeling of old America freedom. The government pulled out that night. The evening neighborhood fireworks was a daily event the whole week, starting well before July 4th and continuing well after.

California has zero control of its borders. Ammo restrictions will only endanger the lives of the law abiding people.

[rlmorel]

In case anyone hasn’t figured out, it is SUPPOSED to be restrictive, burdensome, costly and ineffective.

[Organic Panic]

Don’t worry. Primers will be covered. So the people of Caleeeforneea will be safer than ever.

[Names Ash Housewares]

Hit this poll.....

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/polls/2016/jul/would-you-vote-require-background-checks-ammunitio/results/

[gigster]

The"Safety for All Act of 1016"is Orwellian in it's usage and political philosophy.