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What in the World Is Causing the Retail Meltdown of 2017?
The Atlantic ^ | April 10, 2017 | Derek Thompson

Posted on 04/15/2017 4:03:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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From the outright boycotts of stores like JC Penney, Target, Macy’s etc. and our “Going Galt” the past eight years to not feed the beast under Obama, all of this had to take its toll and the retail stores were destined for the inevitable cutbacks and closures.


121 posted on 04/15/2017 11:03:23 PM PDT by ThE_RiPpEr. (The Obamanation is over! “Free at last, free at last, thank God almighty we are free at last.”)
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To: be-baw

?. If you took personal offense, my comment was directed at the idiots who think the economy was growing and unemployment numbers were low.
Alaska? Anyone who lives here more than a month knows the deal. I’ve been here 24 years.


122 posted on 04/15/2017 11:53:31 PM PDT by vpintheak (Freedom is not equality; and equality is not freedom!)
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To: ctdonath2
The world has changed since our great grandparent’s day.

It's funny, because my grandparents were very comfortable with mail order, as it was part of their upbringing.

I knew of this because when we visited them as kids in the 1950's, various items that they had ordered, such as croquet sets, would arrive during our stay.

123 posted on 04/16/2017 12:47:35 AM PDT by dr_lew (I)
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To: Sequoyah101
Every time I take a chance going to town looking for something I end up coming back home and ordering it because I CAN’T FIND IT AT THE STORES IN TOWN!!

Give me five examples.

124 posted on 04/16/2017 12:55:09 AM PDT by dr_lew (I)
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To: Chengdu54

I live in a college town, a Big 10 university is here. Four or five long-standing restaurants have closed down in the last three months. One was a Denny’s. How the f*** does a Denny’s close down?

Something strange going on.


I would agree!!


125 posted on 04/16/2017 1:58:17 AM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Inside Every Liberal is a Totalitarian Screaming to Get Out - D. Horowitz)
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To: SE Mom

I love going to the local nursery and dreaming of enormous gardens and then buying a couple dozen for my little one.


This year I bought a lot of stuff on line...and seeds to start stuff at home :)


126 posted on 04/16/2017 1:59:58 AM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Inside Every Liberal is a Totalitarian Screaming to Get Out - D. Horowitz)
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To: lavaroise

Yep, we now buy from Ali baba or Mexico direct, thus no need for illegals here to work at walmart....


I try to buy American—especially food given China’s notorious lax food inspection/sanitation system. Not easy though! I think buying anything from China is penny-wise/pound foolish.

I hear China is now shipping food and other items to third parties who then claim they are the country of origin.


127 posted on 04/16/2017 2:05:08 AM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Inside Every Liberal is a Totalitarian Screaming to Get Out - D. Horowitz)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The majority of the closures were struggling for years, using poor advertising schemes, and already on the chopping block. Technology also requires changes in venue and strategy to stay viable.


128 posted on 04/16/2017 3:54:10 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My household is almost 100% online shopping now. Even on Sundays, packages are getting delivered. You can’t really say retail is down without adding in online retail. Recently we’ve started having groceries delivered (Blue Apron). So far, so good.


129 posted on 04/16/2017 4:05:06 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: dfwgator
Maybe people are finally waking up and realizing that they’ve got too much damned stuff.

Tell me about it. I realized that about 2 years ago, and I started throwing stuff out. The wife complained so I simply bought a new house, moved what I wanted, and left the rest with the now, ex-wife. :)

130 posted on 04/16/2017 5:57:37 AM PDT by beancounter13
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
We have just quit buying Chinese crap. If we need it and we can't find USA made we buy just the minimum. I am glad to report I am seeing much more made in the USA labels. Also Amazon is just soooooooo convenient.
131 posted on 04/16/2017 6:09:33 AM PDT by wgmalabama (I was for Sessions before the country knew his name.)
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To: entropy12

Those ObamaCare premiums are coming out of that discretionary money. Less to spend... anywhere.


132 posted on 04/16/2017 6:52:40 AM PDT by bobcat62
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To: TChad

As I kept telling the manager of our local Borders, if you let people lounge around, stuffing their faces and reading the books all day, you’re gonna go out of business.

I was in the store several times a week, and saw repeat offenders.

One guy even bragged that he came every day, stayed all day and never bought anything...he just read the books, there.

Also, there were times that I went to buy a particular book, most memorably, a $60 Photoshop book, that was impossible to find anywhere else, only to discover that someone had spilled a drink containing chocolate all over it, effectively gluing the pages together.

Probably half the books I bought had food residue on them, because of all the freeloading-reader slobs, had read them while parked in the big comfy chairs, sipping their mochas and eating pastries.

There’s a Barnes & Noble and BooksAMillion 40 minutes away but their stock is crap, unless you want to read romance novels.

So I’m stuck with Amazon for a book store.

I might as well pay pennies on the dollar for used books, since I was paying full price for ‘used’ books at Borders, anyway.

And that’s why they collapsed...touchy-feely liberal store policies.

Remember Books ‘N Things?

If you thumbed through a book more than 10 seconds, they were all over you to either buy it or put it down.


133 posted on 04/16/2017 7:06:05 AM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, his reason tends to fly away...)
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To: Yardstick; fivecatsandadog

This is why we have .410s and bird shot.


134 posted on 04/16/2017 7:09:46 AM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, his reason tends to fly away...)
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To: sickoflibs

The Valley Mall in Hagerstown lost Macys recently but is still bustling.

I refuse to go there due to the daily mobs.

As poor as this area is, in general, I have no idea where people get money for all the stuff they buy...except for the welfare royalty, that is.


135 posted on 04/16/2017 7:12:58 AM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, his reason tends to fly away...)
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To: dr_lew

I could give you twenty but im not accountable to you so i wont.


136 posted on 04/16/2017 7:17:07 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This post made me do a little thinking, and I realized there are some things in common with the brick and mortar styles Mrs. Daltec and I still patronize: But the most important reason, by far, is a friendly and knowledgeable staff who know what they are selling and care enough to help you make a decision. Recommendations, being able to show how something works, able to explain what is on the menu, and so on. I am thinking right now of the nursery we visit, the sewing machine shop, the beverage store, the music shop, the few restaurants we visit, the food store -- they all have these qualities.

Come to think of it, all of our favorite stores are either independent or smaller local "chains" with a few stores in the area. Their owners know their clientele (sometimes personally) and make the effort to provide something I've been unable to find online. Except for Trader Joe's, Microcenter and Woodcraft -- they are not independent -- but they do meet all the criteria listed above.

We are willing to pay a little more to support the local shop, if in return they can provide us with a legitimate reason to not buy online.
137 posted on 04/16/2017 7:19:17 AM PDT by daltec
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To: Salamander

In 1990, I was the project manager when the commercial auction and liquidation company I worked for sold this property at foreclosure. As I recall, the senior lender bought it in.


138 posted on 04/16/2017 7:22:49 AM PDT by VietVet876
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To: vpintheak

I didn’t read it that way. Thanks for taking the time to clarify.

Enjoy all the daylight heading your way...


139 posted on 04/16/2017 8:25:17 AM PDT by be-baw (still seeking)
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To: Drew68

“Where did your business go?”

Oh, please. Really? Anywhere but Sears.

Clothing has gone to my sewing machine with fabric bought from the church bazaar.

Most of the appliances are working, knock on wood, so will have to decide when they can no longer be repaired by hubby. IIRC, the last purchase, a water heater, was from Ace. Don’t have to buy from Sears. Kenmore used to be a good product but the last couple times we looked, Sears was way too expensive on all brands. Just got a free riding lawn mower when an illegal decided to go back home.

Have enough inherited tools to last three lifetimes. Speaking of lifetimes, Sears is doing away with Craftsman.

Jewelry doesn’t interest me. Have plenty of lawn furniture and grills. There’s no need for toys. Bottom line, there’s no need for Sears. There are other fish in the sea.


140 posted on 04/16/2017 9:38:36 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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