Can The 6.5 Creedmoor Replace the .308 Win As A SHTF Cartridge?

Am Shooting Journal ^ | 4/23/2017 | J Blaha

[DesertRhino]

Of course. Just as soon as you see it normally on the shelf at Walmart or the gas station/bait Shop.
Before that, it’s a poor choice.

[shibumi]

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[soycd]

I think a necked down .308 to 6.5mm, call it a 6.5 ought eight, may have been just as good or better.

[yarddog]

Thanks, I really miss Texas Cowboy’s posts. It has been a while now.

[old curmudgeon]

The Creedmore will be the next thing for me just because I would like to have one.

However for anyone who is preparing for a national crisis, the selection or selections should be made with two things in mind.

How easy is the ammo to get and how easy is it to trade for something you badly need and need quick.....like food or medical care.

For that I would suggest .308, .223, 9mm, .22 and 7.72x39.

One could buy 5,000 rounds of Creedmore, but if it was necessary to run for your life you would carry one or two of the above suggested weapons, not the Creedmore.

Because after you used up the Creedmore on you, you would not find more quickly.

OK, so you might pick up some dead guy's .308.....but that .308 might be why he is dead. Much better to keep your own.

I doubt that we will have a civil war but I can imagine a time when barter will be a means of survival and those who have nothing to barter stealing from those who do.

If the stupid dims do not allow Trump to solve our economic problems, we are destined to be another Venezuela.

[yarddog]

The average guy would probably never see the difference in a bunch of high power cartridges.

From what I have read, the guys winning the long range matches are using the 6.5 Creedmore or now 6mms.

[phormer phrog phlyer]

Agree, the Browning .243 is one I really like.

[shibumi]

I know it’s a bit of a trek from Florida,
but you ought to consider showing up at one of the Shoots.

Great camaraderie.
Great food.
And you learn a lot about the folks you interact with here -
some of which/whom might surprise you.

[ctdonath2]

Not a substantial difference. So I have to aim a little higher to hit a thousand yard target. So I might squeeze one more round into a large magazine. Not enough benefit to change the whole platform & supply chain.

[arthurus]

I say the best SHTF rifle you can have is one for which it will be the easiest to get ammo for off a dead National Guard.

[Ouderkirk]

But, I can buy the .308’s at Walmart.

That’s the main advantage.

[Axenolith]

It’s a spectacular shooting round but you’d have to be crazy to think you could depend on getting it (ammo) in the field in a grid down situation plus you’re never going to see it fielded in a weapon that can provide suppressing fire.

If you’re in the place you’re going to make a stand/wait out bad stuff sure, have someone with one for long overwatch... as long as you decided to aquire about 1000 rounds before hand, and a reloading press.

I’ve got a Savage model 99 in .284 Win, very similar and I love it but with Winchester making ammo only every other year for about $50/box it’s strictly a game or ranch defense gun (I got about 200 rounds from hole in the wall stores in the country when it was out of production, many still have $7.25 stickers on them). When it comes time for a fight or to bug out though the M1A or the AR or the SKS is going over the shoulder because the ammo is going to be all over the place AND fungible (i.e. it will tend to hold a trade value). I’ll secure the Savage for another day or for some lucky schmuck rising out of the ashes a century later :-)

[onona]

Catch Of The Day !!

[Hardastarboard]

widespread use and availability

Bingo!!! We have a winner. Logistics, my man. Logistics. It's all about the availability of the round. You go to war with the army (ammo/guns) you have.

[Yo-Yo]

When was the last time you saw a Spam can of 6.5 Creedmore?

A worthy round if you hand reload and like the 1,000 yard line at Camp Perry, but as a SHTF round? Would go well with your .45 GAP Glock sidearm.

No ability to use the round as barter, no ability to use scrounged ammo from government sources (alive or dead,) and little hope to ever find components for reloading after your own stocks have been depleted.

[Hardastarboard]

I like loading 125 grain bullets intended for an AK into my .303 Brit brass. It gives you a much cheaper load, since the 125 grainers are highly available, and a flatter shooting / less recoil cartridge. Kind of like the .243 version of a .303. Of course, it’s definitely not a SHTF round, since the availability of .303 is almost like a European metric rifle round here.

[yarddog]

Back in the early 90s I went through a period of financial difficulty. I was forced to sell over 200 guns along with a lot of other stuff.

I eventually stabilized my income but not enough to really stock up again. I did keep around 10 guns and have been able to add a few inexpensive ones so that I probably have nearly 20. Almost none of mine would be my first choice for any use but most of them are acceptable.

The idea of holding off hordes of evil doers in this rural area does not even cross my mind. I do intend to protect myself from any odd robber etc.

The only two high powered rifles I have left are a good 8mm 98 Mauser and a great shooting 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser. Less than 200 rounds of 8mm Mauser and several hundred rounds of 6.5x55, most of it Lapua and maybe a hundred rounds of Norma. I will never need all of it.

Never!

I do have a few .22LR guns and many thousand rounds of .22. most of it would be used for trade. Also a couple of thousand rounds of .22 Mag.

I have a Marlin .22 mag bolt action and maybe 8, 10 round mags. The Marlin is nothing special except it happens to be extremely accurate. It would be my go to gun for most uses.

The one thing I need to really stock up on is food.

[Windflier]

In a SHTF scenario, the best rifle to have, is one which uses the most abundant, most commonly available ammo.

For my money, that would be .223 / 5.56.

[03A3]

A properly twisted .223 beats both.

[vetvetdoug]

Too late, I’ve already stocked up on >20,000 rounds of .308.