Posted on 05/12/2017 2:41:44 PM PDT by PROCON
maybe the gunpowder coated your nose before the lead settled.
You’re forgetting it’s not the facts that count, it’s the seriousness of the charge.
When I see these “studies” I recall what my GP told me years ago .... “Until the studies are replicated and provide consistent ‘significant’ results, you can pretty much ignore them as they are seldom accurate.”
I have ten acres out from town that makes a nice practice range. I avoid indoor ranges primarily because I am cheap and they cost.
When I was a child it was fun to get the mercury out of those oral thermometers and coat pennies with them. It made them look wetly silver until they turned green. Most kids I knew did that more than once and at least some of us survived, I think. The son of a friend was playing with mercury in the eighties and managed to grow up. It probably prevented a super-Einstein because he only grew up to be recruited by NASA when he was a senior in High School. He had some significant input into the software on a Mars Rover project.
My understanding is that the amounts that can cause problems are very small when it involves unborn or young children; I think there’s some evidence that even those small amounts *can* be harmful to a developing brain. I have seen little or no evidence of lead exposure effecting adults.
I don’t know what the exposure values were in the late 70s. Re Umgud’s comment. While in grad school, I spent summer weekends as range safety officer for IHMSA matches, and the Minnesota state championships. All well and good. Winters, at an indoor range in a northern Minneapolis suburb, I ran two different combat pistol leagues, probably spending 8-10/hr per week at or behind the firing line. Because of the cost of heating the exchange air, the range cut the ventilation volume in half.
I was eventually symptomatic, underwent chelation at UofMN health services. It was the lead styphnate. Black mucus when blowing my nose should have been a clue.
True. Lead levels in the body of 115 grains can be fatal.
Mark
Dang! I find the residue of primer and smokeless powder quite acrid-- how thick was the air with this stuff for you to get sick with it?
I was thinking of the fact that everyone used to be exposed to lead from leaded gasoline, so it's hard for me to imagine (short of eating it) how much exposure you needed to get symptomatic: if that was at half-ventilation, I suspect even the original ventilation was inadequate.
If it was in the 70's, it might also have been due to over-sealing the building to reduce energy costs, which happened quite a lot, also causing levels of formaldehyde and CO to build to dangerous levels on occasion.
The wet shirt is caused by the paint chip diet I ate when I was young. Plus I routinely ingested no. 6 pellets from the pheasants and bunnies I harvested as a lad.
I always wondered why my feet felt heavy when I left the range.
All this time I thought it was because it was nap time.
“One of my paternal grandmother’s babies (who would have been my uncle) died from eating food that was cooked in a copper kettle.”
Somehow changing the bullet substance of a weapon designed to kill or poison, with something designed to kill or poison, and calling it an improvement, doesn’t seem real bright.
rwood
If I remember what I read a couple of days ago almost all studies cannot be replicated and are scientifically and statistically worthless.
I have ranted about just this thing to my poor wife for many years. She is kind enough to not smack me for complaining about these worthless studies. She just tells me I am a broken record.
I stand to be corrected, but I’m not buying it.
Wear masks if you are concerned.
The anti-gun people are really scraping the bottom of the barrel here.
Especially if one is on the opposite end of the trigger pull
LOL! Best post ever! :)
Isn’t always the “serious of the charge” ? LOL!
L
Wow! Amazing.
So much fear-mongering.
If you are still in touch with this person, I hope you will tell him thanks for his dedication.
I hear from his folks now and then. We don’t talk much anymore because Dad morphed from a Biology lab assistant at UF to full professor and his once sensible economic and social views morphed right along with his career.Austen Eliazar is the son and you can probably find him on line. He is not with NASA any more because he found out he can make loads more money in Silicon Valley and was frustrated at NASA because NASA was spinning its wheels and had no apparent further aim and now he is making even more in the Health field as a research co-ordinator, whatever that is.
Yes its just causing an epidemic of deaths. LOL!
Lead poisoning is always more of am issue at the business end of the gun. ;) As it should be.
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