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Hmmm. Las Vegas Sheriff: “Did this Person get Radicalized Unbeknownst to Us" – Video 10/3/17
Freedom's Lighthouse ^ | October 3, 2017 | Brian

Posted on 10/03/2017 4:16:01 PM PDT by Federalist Patriot

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To: Fitzy_888

They said he fired through the door before the SWAT went in.


61 posted on 10/03/2017 5:10:20 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: madison10

I imply nothing... but there is a sizeable muzzy population in the PI...


62 posted on 10/03/2017 5:10:29 PM PDT by Clutch Martin (Hot sauce aside, every culture has its pancakes, just as every culture has its noodle.)
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To: Ann Archy

If it said ALLAH AKBAR you will NEVER hear of that note again..EVER


63 posted on 10/03/2017 5:10:39 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sacajaweau; madison10

Anitfa or Islam?

My first thought was Antifa, but it’s not adding up for me. The hard core Antifa types are flat out Commies, they commit violence but seem to want to still be around for the “Revolution”. This guy had no plan for escape.

Islam. I was reluctant here since it’s difficult to imagine a 60yo white American converting to Islam to this extent. But this motive is looking more likely than AntiFA.

In either case, the FBI and DHS are/will be extremely reluctant to disclose the full motive to the public. In the case of Islam they are afraid of Muslim backlash and potentially unleashing that. But I suspect they are even more fearful of a backlash if he were found to be associated or motivated by AntiFA.

With Islam, the enemy is mostly overseas. With AntiFA? The enemy might be your neighbor.

The FBI and DHS have been warned repeatedly under the Obama administration that so-called White nationalists or Right-Wing groups represent a greater threat in America than ISIS.

The Government will want to “Manage the Motive”, when released, in order to minimize what they perceive to be any backlash or retaliation.


64 posted on 10/03/2017 5:11:35 PM PDT by Zeneta
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To: Sacajaweau

Ok, haven’t heard that. I guess that’s possible. But remember, ISIS is claiming responsibility, and those claims are usually true. And the Sheriff mentioned the word “radicalization”. I tend to agree with that, although I am not aware of ISIS ever having paid money for any terrorist acts.


65 posted on 10/03/2017 5:13:59 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Charlottesville PD Motto- When things get rough, we get gone!)
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To: Federalist Patriot
Not saying he wasn't radical Islamic terrorist but two things lead me to think otherwise.

1. No prayer rug in room.

2. He did not shave his head prior to committing homicidal/suicidal acts.

66 posted on 10/03/2017 5:14:20 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: JimSEA

A new perspective on her, thanks.


67 posted on 10/03/2017 5:16:04 PM PDT by SE Mom (Screaming Eagle mom)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Read this another poster linked to

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-las-vegas-shooting-live-updates-at-his-local-starbucks-vegas-shooter-1507060195-htmlstory.html

Was it a abusive relationship or what ?
Did She run off


68 posted on 10/03/2017 5:16:20 PM PDT by ncalburt (ll)
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To: CaptainK

Thank you! I re-watched that; interesting and very troubling at the same time.

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/10/03/tony-shaffer-las-vegas-massacre-country-concert-politically-selected-scalise-shooting


69 posted on 10/03/2017 5:16:44 PM PDT by mlizzy (America needs no words from me to see how your decision in Roe/Wade has deformed a great nation. -MT)
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To: JimSEA

Interesting information if accurate - this and the info about him taking pictures of the shootings make it appear that the whole outrage is related to his own internal long-time demons and not some cause or external event like big gambling losses - will be interesting to see how it plays out.....


70 posted on 10/03/2017 5:17:21 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: arthurus

Ok, thanks, hadn’t heard that.


71 posted on 10/03/2017 5:18:42 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: laconic

I am starting to suspect that the authorities know a lot more than we credit them with and that they have been lulling his possible confederates into not leaving the US or other countries on the false belief that they are not under suspicion. Otherwise, I find it extremely hard to understand this slob’s MOTIVE. First degree murder generally requires a showing of malice aforethought - planning, not acting under duress or emotion, intending to commit the act - all evident with this swine. Clearly he planned this, but WHY? Just to kill masses of people he didn’t know? He didn’t like country music? Hardly.


Three credible motives, all have previous examples:

1. Copycat effect. He has seen all the attention mass murderers get, was feeling suicidal, and planned to break all the records. Well documented. Lots of examples. Adam Lanza a good one.

2. Islamic convert. Spent a lot of time overseas, like Asian women. Did he have an Islamic family in the Philippines? Lots of “lone wolf” jihadis. Orlando shooter a good example.

3. Hated Donald Trump with a passion, and was willing to end it all with a way to kill Trump supporters and cause the Donald a huge problem with his support for the Second Amendment. Republican Baseball shooter an example.


72 posted on 10/03/2017 5:20:52 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Sacajaweau

I think Fitzy_888 meant the victims funerals not the piece of human debris.


73 posted on 10/03/2017 5:21:09 PM PDT by cyclotic (Trump tweets are the only news source you can trust.)
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To: Clutch Martin

Phillipines is 92% Christian 5.57% Muslim


74 posted on 10/03/2017 5:22:11 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Fitzy_888; All

So, what happened there? Seems like bullets were fired through that door, not the other, BEFORE the door was breached (knocked off it’s hinges).

Weird...?


Well documented already:

http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2017/10/the-timeline-of-las-vegas-mass-shooting.html


75 posted on 10/03/2017 5:23:22 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: KavMan

Yeah, where’s the middle name? Is that really him?


76 posted on 10/03/2017 5:24:43 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Zeneta

The girlfriend, who was probably a catch for him, could have insisted on his conversion to Islam. The Philippines is 11 percent Muslim and they are a particularly virolent strain at that.


77 posted on 10/03/2017 5:25:50 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: cyclotic

Thanks for the correction /Sac


78 posted on 10/03/2017 5:26:27 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: precisionshootist
> Occam’s Razor may prove correct again.

What in Las Vegas could possibly drive someone to despair and insanity ??? Hmmmm ..... we will never know .....

79 posted on 10/03/2017 5:29:07 PM PDT by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic at 9.8357x10^8 FPS)
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To: Federalist Patriot

Because many of the domestic terrorist attacks we’ve seen have been from known wolves who were reported by co-workers/friends/neighbors/family, interviewed and cut loose (sometimes on more than one occasion) until they eventually strike.


80 posted on 10/03/2017 5:31:06 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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