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Coal key to National Security Strategy
Canada Free Press ^ | 12/27/17 | Tom Harris

Posted on 12/27/2017 11:20:03 AM PST by Sean_Anthony

Climate scare must be debunked if coal is to recover

It is very appropriate that President Donald Trump virtually ignored climate change in his National Security Strategy (NSS). Recent climate change has been unremarkable and clearly does not constitute a national security threat in comparison with concerns such as terrorism and inadequate border controls.

What does constitute a threat, however, is a lack of affordable, reliable energy to power the nation and export into world markets. So, as a citizen of Canada, a nation dependent on a prosperous U.S. for our defence and much of our economy, I am very pleased to see that Trump emphasized energy security and, indeed energy dominance, in the NSS.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Science
KEYWORDS: canada; coal; nationalsecurity; trump; waroncoal
The US should be a net exporter of energy, and use it as a strategy
1 posted on 12/27/2017 11:20:03 AM PST by Sean_Anthony
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To: Sean_Anthony

Coal is not just for burning. Coal gassification and syngas-to-liquid conversion to produce clean diesel fuel is one of the technologies that csn put coal to a good use.


2 posted on 12/27/2017 11:25:48 AM PST by Mi-kha-el ((There is no Pravda in Izvestiya and no Izvestiya in Pravda.))
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To: Mi-kha-el
Coal is not just for burning. Coal gassification and syngas-to-liquid conversion to produce clean diesel fuel is one of the technologies that csn put coal to a good use.

The pollutant byproducts of the processes are a problem that needs to be addressed. The technologies will appear when those processes become economically advantageous.

3 posted on 12/27/2017 11:36:28 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Sean_Anthony
Your post undermines the basic premise of the article. In fact, the article undermines its own main point.

I don't see how the author of the article can make the case that access to affordable energy is a national security issue, while at the same time suggesting that exporting such energy is a critical U.S. interest.

Is energy a national security asset, or not? If it is, then what do we accomplish when we promote an energy export policy that not only gives this energy to foreign countries, but drives up the cost of that energy here at home?

4 posted on 12/27/2017 12:04:01 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("Tell them to stand!" -- President Trump, 9/23/2017)
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To: JimRed

The technologies are there. I was part of a project in Russia, where they planned to build the unit. They used foreign technologies. You are obviously familiar with this technology. Is it more dirty than coal burning power plants?


5 posted on 12/27/2017 12:19:53 PM PST by Mi-kha-el ((There is no Pravda in Izvestiya and no Izvestiya in Pravda.))
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To: Alberta's Child

Security isuue is energy self-sufficiency. We can sell the surplus to our friends and undermine our enemy.


6 posted on 12/27/2017 12:22:26 PM PST by Mi-kha-el ((There is no Pravda in Izvestiya and no Izvestiya in Pravda.))
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To: Alberta's Child

That’s NOT a valid argument (That you shouldn’t export a strategic asset.)

Exporting energy does NOT drive up the price at home. It increases production at home.

Exporting energy creates a HUGE production capability and puts US in charge of strategic assets for other countries. You don’t start a war with the country that supplies your most critical raw materials. Also it transfers a large amount of dollars from overseas BACK to the US. I’d rather give the Chinese oil and coal instead of property and companies in exchange for the dollars we give them.


7 posted on 12/27/2017 12:52:07 PM PST by Onelifetogive
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To: Onelifetogive
Good points, but I would look at your two main points from a different angle:

Exporting energy does NOT drive up the price at home. It increases production at home.

Tell that to Canadians whose gasoline and natural gas prices have gone through the roof over the last 25 years even as the extraction of oil and gas in Canada has accelerated dramatically.

Exporting energy creates a HUGE production capability and puts US in charge of strategic assets for other countries. You don’t start a war with the country that supplies your most critical raw materials.

That would be true if you're talking about exporting energy to potential enemies, but the U.S. actually imposes embargoes against foreign adversaries that explicitly forbid domestic producers from selling to them.

According to the most recent numbers posted by the U.S. Dept. of Energy for September 2017, the largest customers of U.S. petroleum exports are Canada, China, South Korea and Great Britain. China would fit your narrative, but are any of the other three even remotely considered potential adversaries of the U.S.?

8 posted on 12/27/2017 1:01:56 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("Tell them to stand!" -- President Trump, 9/23/2017)
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To: Mi-kha-el

My familiarity with the technology is minimal. But I find it hard to believe that coal can’t be burned in a non-polluting (or reduced polluting) manner with technology.

A block from my home is a recreation area paved over with asphalt, containing three basketball courts (I play there a couple of dozen times a year) and a skateboard facility. It is paved over because it is the site of a former coal gasification plant that was closed down long ago, probably in the 40s or 50s. There are toxic pollutants that escape from the soil. There are a few small monitoring wells with brass covers; I assume that they test the levels from time to time. So before committing to that function we need to be sure not to repeat the mistakes of the past.


9 posted on 12/27/2017 1:11:16 PM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Sean_Anthony

Yes. But right now, with climate change and greenhouse gasses as a main concern, LNG is perhaps the most strategic fuel in the coming years. It is clean burning with a low impact on the environment and therefore regarded highly desirable by many countries.


10 posted on 12/27/2017 1:11:33 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: Mi-kha-el

Power companies have been working toward clean coal for decades. My dad worked at the utility for almost 40 years and we’ve been hearing about progress since the 1970s.


11 posted on 12/27/2017 1:27:37 PM PST by Cloverfarm (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem ...)
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To: JimRed

It’s not just selling coal and NG—it’s control of new power plant technology also. There is an electrical energy generation system developed in the U.S. which is now testing in pilot plant form. Captures all pollutants from fuels by their conversion into chemical feed-stocks. Near 60% efficiency for NG, 49% for gasified lignite coal, all while capturing the CO2 at pipeline pressure. Cost for construction priced at about $1000 per megawatt capacity.

https://www.usea.org/sites/default/files/event-/Friday%20-%20EN%20-%208%20Rivers_CCIF%202017%20final.pdf

http://www.gasification-syngas.org/uploads/eventLibrary/2014_11.2_8_Rivers_Xijia_Lu.pdf

https://ac.els-cdn.com/S1876610217313759/1-s2.0-S1876610217313759-main.pdf?_tid=30fa6d6a-eb87-11e7-a34e-00000aab0f02&acdnat=1514435333_b6ecf3fdb1e2f731b5f34612b79832e6

https://ukccsrc.ac.uk/sites/default/files/documents/event/London%20Biannual%20SPK%20%20-%20Rodney%20Allam(1).pdf


12 posted on 12/27/2017 8:58:04 PM PST by Ozark Tom
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To: Alberta's Child
Tell that to Canadians whose gasoline and natural gas prices have gone through the roof over the last 25 years even as the extraction of oil and gas in Canada has accelerated dramatically.

Help me understand. Was Canada's energy prices WAY below world prices then or WAY above them now?

13 posted on 12/28/2017 10:06:08 AM PST by Onelifetogive
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To: Onelifetogive
They were way below it.

It's interesting how this works when the country you're dealing with is a huge exporter of commodities and has a large trade surplus with its major trading partners. It effectively takes on a lot of the characteristics of a Third World country where it ends up exporting things that are increasingly unaffordable to its own citizens.

I was at a conference a few months ago in Pittsburgh, and they're starting to describe the entire state of Pennsylvania that way.

14 posted on 12/28/2017 10:14:09 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Tell them to stand!" -- President Trump, 9/23/2017)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
Thanks Sean_Anthony.

15 posted on 12/28/2017 12:50:26 PM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Alberta's Child

Is energy a national security asset, or not? If it is, then what do we accomplish when we promote an energy export policy that not only gives this energy to foreign countries, but drives up the cost of that energy here at home?


Exporting energy does not drive up the cost of energy. The cost is regulated by the market. Sometimes it makes sense to export some kinds of some energy to some places, other times it does not.

If we are a net exporter of energy we have a surplus of energy production in the nation that can be put to other uses in time of crises, such as war.


16 posted on 12/31/2017 5:27:05 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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