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(Vanity) Hypothetical: Would JFK Jr. have beaten Hillary in NY Senate race?
n/a | 21 January 2018 | ResisTyr

Posted on 01/21/2018 5:04:35 PM PST by ResisTyr

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To: Bobalu

Speaking to your point, I saw a video with Chelsea speaking to a group of people and said the following: “...and not that Scalia’s out of the way...”.

You’d be hard pressed to find that now since it’s likely erased (for obvious reasons).


21 posted on 01/21/2018 5:18:59 PM PST by Paulie (America without Christ is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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To: Ann Archy

My husband is a pilot and he’s always thought this accident was pilot error - too inexperienced and not enough training to fly that evening.


22 posted on 01/21/2018 5:19:14 PM PST by Aria
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To: ResisTyr

Is he the one with that irritating voice?


23 posted on 01/21/2018 5:20:15 PM PST by Husker24
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To: ResisTyr

I thought he died because of bad weather and his lack of skills in flying that type of plane in bad weather.


24 posted on 01/21/2018 5:24:13 PM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: ResisTyr

Being dead, I just assumed he voted for her.


25 posted on 01/21/2018 5:25:04 PM PST by Romulus
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To: Aria

That is what my flight instructor friends tell me as well.


26 posted on 01/21/2018 5:25:23 PM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: ResisTyr

Of course he would...it wouldn’t even have been close.


27 posted on 01/21/2018 5:32:22 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Remember: All Cultures Are Equal!)
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To: ResisTyr

He was a bit dumb, and a typically arrogant Kennedy. He was not qualified to be instrument flying in that weather, but those rules are for little people, not Kennedys. Hubris killed him, not cankles.


28 posted on 01/21/2018 5:33:08 PM PST by dead
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To: Aria; Maine Mariner

As a long-ago pilot with extremely rusty skills, I agree with both of you. However, what I found unusual was sending out that Navy ship to recover the remains and the quick burial at sea without an autopsy. That smacked of some sort of cover-up.


29 posted on 01/21/2018 5:34:25 PM PST by Fast Moving Angel (It is no more than a dream remembered, a Civilization gone with the wind.)
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To: ResisTyr

Idk if JFK Jr would have beaten Hillary or not, but I do know the plane crash wasn’t rigged. JFK Jr was not a very experienced or seasoned pilot. He had planned to fly to the Vineyard much earlier, when visibility would have been excellent. His wife and her sister were very late in getting to the airport. It was late on a hazy evening when he took off. If he had been skilled in flying by instruments he’d have been ok. But he flew by sight, and the conditions that evening were terrible for it. It was simply no time and place for an inexperienced pilot.

In the aftermath of the crash, one pilot after another commented on the situation. It’s entirely too easy to get one read from the *nonexistent horizon* and the opposite from the instrument panel. Even after the plane goes into a graveyard spiral—which is the natural consequence of a person’s inability to harmonize what he’s seeing in the hazy glare of the setting sun on the sea versus what his instruments are telling him—the unseasoned pilot is unaware of what’s happening. There is a total disorientation that takes place when visibility hits a certain level of ambiguity. JFK Jr probably didn’t fully grasp the impending disaster until the plane actually struck the water.

Hillary’s hit list is very long, but JFK JR is one person who’s not on it. He simply wasn’t qualified to fly under the conditions that prevailed that evening. It’s no more complicated than that.


30 posted on 01/21/2018 5:35:19 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: ResisTyr

JFK, Jr. was a newly licensed instrument pilot flying over water at dusk in flat ligh conditions in a plane new to him with far more power than he could handle.

JFK, Jr. died because he was stupid. He was not murdered and there was no conspiracy in his death.

I am not a big conspiracy, but I am convinced a missle brought down TWA flight 800.


31 posted on 01/21/2018 5:37:17 PM PST by WASCWatch
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To: Ann Archy
I never gave that a thought. I would not doubt the possibility. If ever found out, an angry mob of women would tear her limb from limb for taking out their John John.


32 posted on 01/21/2018 5:38:54 PM PST by avenir ("But as for you, teach what accords with sound doctrine."--Paul to Titus)
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To: ResisTyr

Considering what the DNC did to Bernie...


33 posted on 01/21/2018 5:39:35 PM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart...I just don't tell anyone)
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To: Fast Moving Angel

Sending out the Navy ship did not surprise me, the son of a former president and the nephew of a long serving senator
with lots of favors to cash it.

I was not aware of no autopsy and burial at sea.
Was that just for JFK jr or all three victims.


34 posted on 01/21/2018 5:39:38 PM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: Fast Moving Angel

Ted Kennedy arranged the naval recovery and burial. It’s possible that he was concerned about a lawsuit from the family who had just lost both daughters. JFK Jr recklessly endangered them by flying under conditions he for which he was not qualified. Had the family wished to fleece the Kennedys, they stood at least a fighting chance.


35 posted on 01/21/2018 5:39:42 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Maine Mariner
He was also flying with an injured foot, maybe in a cast, and partaking of pain medication.

I do remember Bush43 allowing The Swimmer's wishes to prevail, and had the autopsy cancelled.

36 posted on 01/21/2018 5:44:01 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: ResisTyr

JFK Jr would have beaten Hillary.

But the reason he is dead is because he flew into conditions he was not qualified to fly in.


37 posted on 01/21/2018 5:44:04 PM PST by jerseyman
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To: ResisTyr

He wouldn’t have lived long enough to find out. Oh, wait, ...


38 posted on 01/21/2018 5:44:12 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Psephomancers for Hillary!)
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To: Huntress

“...and why he decided to fly his small plane over water in the dark, despite his lack of experience as a pilot.”

This is incorrect.

The plane he flew he was not totally familiar with, that is true, but he requested and waited a long time for an instructor to fly with him. He got the instructor.

Extremely unlikely he was ‘goofing around’ while flying as the newspapers suggested, since JFK, Jr. had a reputation of being very careful and thorough when he flew.

The search parties took an extraordinarily long time to get to the downed plane, and when they did, the front passenger seat was missing, and it appeared the device that controlled the fuel to the engines had been in the ‘off’ position.

I stand to be corrected, but this is the information I was given and I believe to be true.


39 posted on 01/21/2018 5:44:15 PM PST by Paulie (America without Christ is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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To: Paulie

‘but he requested and waited a long time for an instructor to fly with him. He got the instructor.’

Nope. An instructor offered to fly with JFK Jr and the offer was declined.

The front seat of the plane was not missing. The JFK Jr, his wife and her sister were found in their places/seats, seatbelts fastened.


40 posted on 01/21/2018 5:50:29 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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