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Why would the Russians feed dirt on Trump to Steele and Hillary if they wanted Trump to win?
Flopping Aces ^ | 03-14-18 | DrJohn

Posted on 03/15/2018 10:57:55 AM PDT by Starman417

Some things just don't add up.

It is well known that the largely discredited Steele dossier was paid for by the Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democrat National Committee. We know that Associate Deputy Attorney General Bruce Ohr was funneling information from his wife- who was working for Fusion- to the FBI. Ohr failed to disclose his wife's involvement and compensation and was demoted.

Bruce Ohr, the Department of Justice official who brought opposition research on President Donald Trump to the FBI, did not disclose that Fusion GPS, which performed that research at the Democratic National Committee’s behest, was paying his wife, and did not obtain a conflict of interest waiver from his superiors at the Justice Department, documents obtained by The Daily Caller News Foundation show.

The omission may explain why Ohr was demoted from his post as associate deputy attorney general after the relationship between Fusion GPS and his wife emerged and Fusion founder Glenn Simpson acknowledged meeting with Ohr. Willfully falsifying government ethics forms can carry a penalty of jail time, if convicted.

The Democratic National Committee (DNC) hired Fusion GPS to gather and disseminate damning info about Trump, and they in turn paid Nellie Ohr, a former CIA employee with expertise in Russia, for an unknown role related to the “dossier.” Bruce Ohr then brought the information to the FBI, kicking off a probe and a media firestorm.

Tonight we learn that both Steele and Fusion GPS are even more deeply linked to the Obama administration. In 2012 the Obama campaign employed Fusion GPS to dig up dirt on Mitt Romney:
The Barack Obama presidential campaign hired Fusion GPS in 2012 to dig up dirt on Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, according to a book released on Tuesday.

The Obama campaign hid its payments to Fusion GPS through its law firm, Perkins Coie. The arrangement is similar to the one that the Clinton campaign and Democratic National Committee used to pay Fusion for its investigation of then-candidate Donald Trump in 2016.

That contract led to the creation of the infamous Steele dossier, which was written by former British spy Christopher Steele.

“In 2012, Fusion GPS was hired to do opposition research on Mitt Romney for Barack Obama’s reelection campaign,” reads “Russian Roulette: The Inside Story of Putin’s War on America and Donald Trump’s Election.”

The book is written by Michael Isikoff and David Corn, two veteran reporters who met during the 2016 campaign with Steele and Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson.

We also learned that it was an Obama State Department official who initiated the Christopher Steele-FBI alliance:
A senior Barack Obama State Department official gave the green light to an FBI agent in 2016 to meet with dossier writer Christopher Steele, a meeting that touched off a relationship that would fuel the ongoing investigation into possible Donald Trump-Russia election collusion.

And, the sensational Steele allegation that led to an FBI wiretap on Trump volunteer Carter Page came from “pillow talk” with the lover of a Kremlin official, a new book says.

The disclosure that Victoria Nuland started the process is contained in “Russian Roulette,” a book released Tuesday by Yahoo News report Michael Isikoff and Mother Jones magazine’s David Corn.

Two committees, the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and the Senate Judiciary Committee, are investigating how Obama officials promoted Mr. Steele’s 35-page dossier. It makes a series of criminal charges against President Trump and his associates, contending there was an “extensive conspiracy” between them and the Kremlin. This supposed collusion has not been substantiated publicly. House intelligence committee Republicans on Monday said their 14-month investigation found no collusion.

“Russian Roulette” shows Obama people played a deeper role in promoting the dossier to get it into the hands of law enforcement.

Mr. Steele, who was excited over his findings about Mr. Trump supposed dalliance with Russian prostitutes and purported collusion with the Kremlin, pressed his handler, Glenn Simpson, of Fusion GPS, to let him go to the FBI.

This puts Barack Obama and his regime right in the middle of the anti-Trump conspiracy. Obama had experience with Fusion GPS, known for smearing the opponents of its clients. Now we know how the Clinton campaign came to know Fusion. The Obama campaign and the Clinton campaign utilized the same law firm- Perkins Coie. When Glenn Simpson of Fusion GPS approached Perkins Coie for funding the dossier he was approaching a former client.

In a February interview with CBS, Nuland had this to say:

Former State Department official Victoria Nuland told CBS News' "Face the Nation" that the dossier compiled by former British spy Christopher Steele was brought to the State Department's attention in July of 2016, which then shared the information with the FBI. Nuland's new details concerning the dossier comes on the heels of the release of a newly declassified memo crafted by House Intelligence Committee Chairman Rep. Devin Nunes, R-Calif., Rep Trey Gowdy, R-South Carolina, and two staff investigators.

"He [Steele] passed two to four pages of short points of what he was finding, and our immediate reaction to that was, 'This is not in our purview,'" said Nuland, who served as assistant secretary of state for European and Eurasian affairs during the Obama administration. "'This needs to go to the FBI, if there is any concern here that one candidate or the election as a whole might be influenced by the Russian federation. That's something for the FBI to investigate.'"

She added, "our reaction when we saw this [was,] it's not our -- we can't evaluate this. And frankly, if every member of the campaign who the Russians tried to approach and tried to influence had gone to the FBI as well in real time, we might not be in the mess we're in today."

She failed to mention that she was one who contacted the FBI.

But what's interesting is that in July 2016 Steele was already in the employ of Fusion GPS and by default, the Clinton campaign and the NC. So when Nuland says that the Steele dossier was brought to the attention of the State Department, it was brought by Fusion GPS under the aegis of the Clinton campaign- who was paying for the dossier. This seems to have happened very quickly as Steele wrote his first memo on June 20, 2016.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: chaosduh; clinton; fusiongps; nuland; obama; russia; russianpropagandists; russianpuppets; russianstooges; russiasucks; statedepartment; trump
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1 posted on 03/15/2018 10:57:55 AM PDT by Starman417
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To: Starman417

Because Hillary said so, got it!


2 posted on 03/15/2018 11:07:05 AM PDT by eyeamok (Tolerance: The virtue of having a belief in Nothing!)
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To: Starman417

It is pretty clear that the Democratic Party and the Clinton Campaign were either willing or unwilling dupes for the Russians (probably both, but mostly willing)

They might have been doing the same to the Trump team.

What do the Russians get out of it?

Leverage/blackmail or power material over whoever won the race.


3 posted on 03/15/2018 11:09:53 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: Starman417

Answer: The Russians

I’ll take elections for $500, Alex.

Question: Who wanted to sow discord in the American 2016 elections?


4 posted on 03/15/2018 11:12:28 AM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: eyeamok

Discusting ..lock em all up.


5 posted on 03/15/2018 11:12:57 AM PDT by spokeshave
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To: Starman417

Because Russians drink so much vodka!


6 posted on 03/15/2018 11:13:38 AM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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To: rlmorel

If whoever took the bait lost, nothing lost on their side.

I wonder if they didn’t think through on or didn’t care what would happen to the side that took the bait if they lost.

And the media was both a willing and unwilling dupe as well, but almost all willing like the Dems and Clinton.

They just did not consider losing.

Now, all they have is to double down on their stupidity. It did not occur to them their side might lose.


7 posted on 03/15/2018 11:15:02 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: Starman417

I still haven’t seen a shred of evidence that the Russians DID feed information to Steele. The only basis for that is that Steele SAID that’s where the dossier came from.
Oh, and by the way, the poisoned Russian retired spy, was a close Steele associate. I’m sure that’s just a coincidence.
The whole thing is a DNC/Deep state?Intel community scam.

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/03/spy-posions-spy-and-the-anti-trump-campaign.html


8 posted on 03/15/2018 11:17:41 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Starman417

I do believe the Clintons were up to their necks in Uranium One with the Russians, and it would have served Putin’s purposes to have Clinton win, because that nonsense would become more entrenched, and they would have had something to hold over her.


9 posted on 03/15/2018 11:19:25 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: DesertRhino

I agree. But I also don’t discount active Russian meddling...with the Clintons and the DNC.


10 posted on 03/15/2018 11:21:18 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: Starman417

Steele’s Russian spy friend (the one poisoned who had lived openly in the UK for 8 years) almost certainly composed the fake dossier, and was able to write it as though it came from a local.
Then he had to be offed because he knew too much and Steele and the Brennan/Comey/GCHQ crowd realized they better not trust a double agent.

Simple as that. And what is happening is a second coup attempt here in the USA. JFK being the first.


11 posted on 03/15/2018 11:21:55 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Starman417

You have to twist yourself into a pretzel to believe this.


12 posted on 03/15/2018 11:23:40 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: rlmorel

I still haven’t seen any proof unless it has come from rabid Hillary supporters, or traitors to America like Comey, Brennan, Clapper, McCain, Neuland, etc.

And the premise of the article is pretty solid. If Russia was intending to assist Trump, then releasing the Russian hooker/pee pee on the mattress dossier would be a pretty strange way to help. When confronted with this obvious contradiction, their answer changed form Russians assisting Trump, to, “Oh, the Russians just wanted to sow general chaos”.

Laughable to watch their constantly changing story.


13 posted on 03/15/2018 11:27:09 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: the_Watchman

“Question: Who wanted to sow discord in the American 2016 elections?”

Yes... who indeed AFTER the election wanted to sow discord? And who before the election wanted to smear an opponent as some kind of Russian tool?

Who? The answer is staring us all right in the face.


14 posted on 03/15/2018 11:29:10 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: rlmorel

“Leverage/blackmail or power material over whoever won the race.”

I had always though the Russkies wanted the bitch to win! They had all her emails!


15 posted on 03/15/2018 11:30:44 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing! Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a doctor and I won't touch that thing)
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To: Starman417

the collusion was with the dems... the trump russia collusion is a smoke screen to deflect guilt from the dems who reset relations to russia for big bucks.


16 posted on 03/15/2018 11:31:04 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: miss marmelstein

You do indeed. That logical inconsistency is exactly why the dems switched from “Russia was backing Trump”, to “Russia was trying to sow general non-targeted chaos”.

Their updated lies were conflicting with their earlier lies.
This is an interesting case study of “Oh what a tangled web we weave...”
Hillary’s excuses and lies by necessity get more and more complex and contradictory.


17 posted on 03/15/2018 11:34:26 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Starman417

To understand you must think like a liberal which is impossible for us.


18 posted on 03/15/2018 11:38:20 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: Starman417

Anti-russia McCrazies know the answer.


19 posted on 03/15/2018 11:46:18 AM PDT by granada
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To: Starman417

“Some things just don’t add up.”


Oh, that’s for sure. The first thing about the whole “Russian collusion” meme that doesn’t add up is its very basis - Why on God’s green Earth would Vlad Putin want Trump to win? If anything, he’d want him to LOSE.

Why? Well, Russia’s economy has barely started to recover from 75 years of Communism, and many years of corruption (which are not over by a long shot). Its economy is about the size of NY State’s, and it gets 2/3 of its foreign currency earnings from the sale of oil and gas...

...and along comes Trump, who promises from Day One of his campaign to unleash the full creativity and capacity of the US oil industry, take coal off of its deathbed, etc. These things could only DECREASE Russian revenue from sales of oil and gas, endangering its military build-up at least, and its very economy at worst.

Oh, and speaking of military build-ups, Trump promised one of those, too. Our economy is maybe 15 times the size of Russia’s, and we’d bury them in short order if we were serious.

By the way, the twin pillars of bringing down the Soviet Union were cutting them off at the knees by having the Saudis produce oceans of oil, so as to dramatically cut the price of oil and natural gas, and a very large military build-up. Putin assuredly knows this and remembers it well - and someone who called the destruction of the Soviet Union “one of the greatest political tragedies of the 20th Century” would be in no mood to have the same happen to his nascent plans for a renewed Russian Empire.

Hillary, meanwhile, promised to keep the chains on the oil industry, pound a stake through the heart of the coal industry, and spend every dime that we could borrow on social programs - not the military. Hillary could also be blackmailed because of the entire Uranium One story - if, that is, she ever got out of line and started actually doing something effective vs. the Russians.

No, Putin and the Russian leadership did NOT want Trump to win, not by any stretch of the imagination. Thus, the entire “Trump-Russia” collusion meme makes about as much sense as screen doors on a submarine.


20 posted on 03/15/2018 1:21:05 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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