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Simulated sunlight reveals how 98% of plastics at sea go missing each year
WUWT ^ | November 8, 2019 | charles the moderator

Posted on 11/08/2019 8:00:33 AM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

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To: Boogieman
Are you kidding I love plastics:

Cthulhu and R'lyeh.jpg

21 posted on 11/08/2019 8:59:45 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: dead

Looks like I was not giving Africa its due.

At least the plastic is breaking down due to UV and is not a semi permanent problem.

The problem with all the biodegradable plastics is the people polluting the most can afford the more expensive packaging the least.


22 posted on 11/08/2019 9:01:46 AM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (TRUMP TRAIN !!! Get the hell out of the way if you are not on yet because we don't stop for idiots)
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To: Boogieman
To burn the plastic is a good idea. I don't know whether incineration would reduce it to harmless chemicals.

We should reduce pollutants to harmless chemicals before sending them into the oceans.

Years ago, when I lived in a beautiful old mansion on a beautiful river in a historic area, I had to replace my septic tank. The plumber told me that in olden times, the toilet waste was just piped untreated into the river and that the pipes were still in place, that he could re-connect them and save me the cost of replacing the septic tank. I was outraged at the very idea. I fired him and hired another plumber to replace the septic tank.

I have no sympathy for environmentalist whackos! I have had some extremely unpleasant dealings with them!

But I am a true environmentalist, as are most, maybe all, of the Freepers who post here on FR--and unlike the mentally ill whacko fools!

I am also a true liberal, as are most, maybe all, of the Freepers who post here on FR--and unlike the mentally ill fools who love to call themselves liberal but who in fact are the opposite.

I'm sure that you are a true environmentalist and a true liberal also, Boog. Otherwise you wouldn't be a Freeper--you'd be posting on...what's that site that's so left-wing nutcase...? I can't remember.

23 posted on 11/08/2019 9:02:47 AM PST by Savage Beast (HATE is the ultimate EVIL, and EVIL the ultimate STUPIDITY. Pity those consumed by HATE.)
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To: Savage Beast

Why, pray tell, are we DUMPING plastics in the ocean?


24 posted on 11/08/2019 9:10:03 AM PST by mwilli20 (DJT, let's MAGA!)
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To: Savage Beast
Couldn’t plastic be degraded into harmless chemicals, in treatment plants, before it is dumped into the oceans, just as human waste is rendered harmless?

That would take all the fun out of the liberal drama queen's rant...

25 posted on 11/08/2019 9:10:51 AM PST by GOPJ (Every election that's statistically 'too close' to call will go to democrats. Fraud works for dems.)
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To: Boogieman
Hey, cut India some slack. That is progress from the feces and human corpses that used to fill that waterway!

That's still there, under the plastic...

26 posted on 11/08/2019 9:14:23 AM PST by null and void (Convicted spies are shot, traitors are hanged, saboteurs are subject to summary execution...)
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To: teeman8r

“we need to dump more stuff into the oceans...”

For the good old days. Big smelly belly dump barges full of trash, garbage, and horse droppings headed out to sea followed by a dense cloud of noisey seagulls.


27 posted on 11/08/2019 9:14:44 AM PST by fproy2222
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

So tossing plastic in the ocean is the best thing we can do for the environment? Neat! Off to the shore now ...


28 posted on 11/08/2019 9:16:21 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: dfwgator

The silly notion that the earth is a self destructive organism is advanced by those seeking control over their neighbors. They are the ones seeking the destruction of the planet.


29 posted on 11/08/2019 9:17:13 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (A deep and terrible ignorance born of abject corruption is required to hate our president.)
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To: Fresh Wind

Oh my lord. I love to travel, willing to go almost anywehere provided it’s safe. But I have no desire and will not set foot in India. Sorry Indian freepers, nothing personal. I’ve just seen too many pics like the one posted.


30 posted on 11/08/2019 9:19:07 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
95% or some ridiculous amount of plastic ocean waste dumps out of the Yellow and Yangtze Rivers and the Ganges. China and India respectively with almost all the rest dumped out of Africa. The civilized world does not dump plastic in the oceans. Get those places to clean up their acts and problem solved.

You win the thread prize!

31 posted on 11/08/2019 9:28:23 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Savage Beast

“I don’t know whether incineration would reduce it to harmless chemicals.”

There’s bound to be biproducts, but considering the advances we have made in “scrubber” technology for smokestacks, I bet it could be made pretty negligible.


32 posted on 11/08/2019 9:37:57 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: pepsi_junkie

You got your work cut out for you. The Chinese, Indians and Africans always win this event. Being from a civilized country you really don’t have a chance to even make the prelims.

You would not make it out of this heat:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2teSx5xiRk


33 posted on 11/08/2019 9:38:50 AM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (TRUMP TRAIN !!! Get the hell out of the way if you are not on yet because we don't stop for idiots)
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To: fproy2222

fill that marianna trench... in nature’s own trash compacter


34 posted on 11/08/2019 9:42:12 AM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: cuban leaf

Those who dine in high school cafeterias have long suspected this.


35 posted on 11/08/2019 10:06:27 AM PST by robowombat (Orthodox)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
Plastic is made of oil.

The sea has a bunch of oil leaking into it all the time and always has. Oil naturally leaks out of the ground.

The sea has a way of dealing with all of this oil.

It uses the same method on plastic.

Why would this be puzzling?

36 posted on 11/08/2019 10:12:09 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (A hero is a hero no matter what medal they give him. Likewise a schmuck is still a schmuck.)
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To: Savage Beast
The majority of plastic in the oceans, something like 90% IIRC, is swept out by five rivers in China and two in Africa.

Good luck getting them to do anything about it.

37 posted on 11/08/2019 10:14:56 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (A hero is a hero no matter what medal they give him. Likewise a schmuck is still a schmuck.)
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To: teeman8r
For all of you ex-Navy types:

"Now throw all trash and garbage over the side. Sweepers."

38 posted on 11/08/2019 10:21:42 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: cuban leaf
The sun breaks down plastics in the ocean and what is released is bio-available, ie food for stuff.

One problem with that, though. Some plastics do not break down into their chemical components, but break down into smaller and smaller fragments. If the tiniest fragments become concentrated enough in an area it can affect any filter-feeding organisms near the bottom of the food chain (coral, clams/oysters, sardines, menhaden, etc.). They can literally starve to death with full bellies, because there is no nutrition to be had from the plastic.

When the bottom of the food chain is disrupted it affects the higher orders' feeding. Not a good thing.

39 posted on 11/08/2019 10:56:16 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: JimRed

I suppose it depends on the quantity.

For me, everything is about PPM. I see our planet’s holistic ecosystem as a big HVAC system. Those are designed with particular parameters in mind. It’s why you want one size for a 1.000 sq ft house, and another for a 3,000 sq ft house. I think the earth’s “HVAC” system is operating at a fraction of its capacity regarding the human race’s impact and influence. We are like a single mouse huddled in the corner of that 3,000 sq ft house. The HVAC can handle our extra body heat. :)


40 posted on 11/08/2019 11:00:16 AM PST by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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