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It's 5150 Time!!!! Sammy Hagar Re-Joins Van Halen
Melodicrock.com ^ | 11-20-03 | my favorite headache

Posted on 11/19/2003 11:14:22 PM PST by My Favorite Headache

Thursday, November 20, 2003

VAN HALEN WILL RETURN IN 2004 - AT LONG LAST!: Van Halen is on the verge of a long awaited comeback. Long tortured fans are about to be put out of their misery, as the band looks ready to fire in 2004. Details are still sketchy as plans are still in the very early stages of development and are therefore continuing to change as issues are sorted through.

Sammy Hagar is set to return to his role as Van Halen's lead vocalist. Original frontman David Lee Roth is not associated with this re-union.

Here's what's been happening, pieced together from a couple of my well known and reliable sources.

It's not clear who initiated first contact. I was told that Eddie & Alex Van Halen called Sammy Hagar, while it was also suggested to me that it was Sammy that called the brothers out of the blue. Either way, contact was established and an attempt to bury the hatchet was made. Sammy Hagar then made a trip to Eddie's house and the 5150 studio. The idea was to see if Sammy, Ed and Alex could in fact put the events of the last 7 years behind them and work together again. It was also a chance for Sammy to hear the material that has so far been written and recorded by Eddie and Alex. I'm told there have since been a few more meetings – which were apparently both good and bad, but issues are being dealt with and a future discussed. Hagar has apparently already told members of his solo band of his plans to re-join Van Halen. Hagar's legal team is already in discussion with Van Halen's legal team.

I was told that bass player Michael Anthony was not present at the first meeting and I am not yet aware of him meeting again with Ed and Alex, who he hasn't talked to for a couple of years now. But I was told that Sammy has insisted that Michael is part of the re-union line-up.

There is no timetable in place as yet for this re-union. As I said, this is still in the very early stages of being developed. A few ideas are still being considered – such as playing a few shows to get things started before recording/finishing a brand new studio album. What is almost definite though are plans for a new studio album – hoped to be ready for mid-2004, but possibly not until late 2004 - followed by a tour.

News leaked overnight of the band's intention to sign a new management deal with Irving Azoff Management. Azoff's office has made the official "no comment" on the matter, but expect this high profile management company to confirm their equally high profile signing soon. Irving Azoff is a well known and powerful manager, who currently has The Eagles, Christina Aguilera, Seal, Jewel and of course Journey on his roster. Azoff has also been Sammy Hagar's solo manager for the last couple of years.

As far as record labels go, Warner Brothers still has a relationship with the band, given that every album they have released has been with the label. I'm told that they will certainly be the first in line to sign the band should everything work out as planned. Irving Azoff also has a strong relationship with the label. Sanctuary Records is being talked about as a possible home for the band, but don't expect that to happen. Hagar had a solo deal with that label, but only for the Greatest Hits Live release and a yet to eventuate re-issue of his solo albums Ten 13 and Not For Sale, which should still happen when the current deal with the two issuing labels for those albums finish.

Not so good news for fans of the Diamond one. David Lee Roth is apparently out of the picture. It seems another attempt to work with him was made after the denied at the time get together in 2000. Once again it didn't work out and the Van Halen brothers have seemingly ruled out any future attempt to work with him. This is the first contact the brothers have had with Hagar since he departed the band in a storm of ill-feeling in 1996.

Planet Us, the all-star project featuring Sammy Hagar, Michael Anthony, Neal Schon, Deen Castronovo and Joe Satriani is all but over – and has been for some time. The project has been left in the hands of guitarist Schon and drummer Castronovo. One rumor is that Neal Schon is still interested in such an album and has another singer in mind. The guys only recorded two tracks together – Vertigo and Peeping Through A Hole – neither of which has been released officially.

There is still more to come. I had planned to gather more information over the course of this week and the weekend, but the leaked news of the Azoff management deal by the music industry website Hits Daily Double has moved the timetable forward. A new Greatest Hits album was one of the rumors leaked in association with the management news. But, to date I have heard no mention of such a plan, unless the band wants to get something into the public's hands while they work on a new studio record. I personally do not see such a thing happening. Could it be time for the Van Hagar CD re-masters to be re-issued?

This is a slowly developing situation and of course, nothing has been announced officially. When this will happen is another major question. The answer is one I hope to bring to you in due course, along with further developments and details of any firm plans that have been put in place. It's nice to be able to bring such positive news to long suffering Van Halen fans. It's news I have the utmost confidence in.


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To: gawatchman
It may have been "Careful with that ax Eugene." BUT my sister clearly yelled the other in my face. And that's why I am the way I am :P

I think what happened with rock is that everyone became "artists" rather than rockers. I generally like music that is funny, ironic, or smart but always with a great hook.

Best hooks in rock:

My Sharona Knack
Stone In Love Journey
Feel Your Love Tonight Van Halen
I Know A Little Skynard

(fill in your selections}
101 posted on 11/20/2003 10:04:40 AM PST by sully777 (ad absurdum)
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To: meanie monster
I prefer to say there is no Van Halen without Eddie, but Sammy Hagar is NO David Lee Roth. Diamond Dave rocks!
102 posted on 11/20/2003 10:09:13 AM PST by Laura Earl (128)
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To: Khurkris
oh man...do I have memories of that song!!!! it was the summer before my jr yr of of high school and I was taking drivers ed with a friend, her sisters boyfriend used to drive us to drivers ed class ....he had a 68 or 68 cutlass with airshocks in the back, a foot shaped gas pedal and a crankin' 8track player......and he would always play Wango Tango as loud as possible, windows down.....one time he peeled into the parking lot of the school, Wango Tango blairing and when we got out our intructor yelled to us "GIRLS!!! That is exactly how NOT to drive!!!!!"

ahhh...the glorious results of a misspent youth! LOL!!!
103 posted on 11/20/2003 10:14:03 AM PST by Newton ("Government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem." -R. Reagan 1981)
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To: Laura Earl
Dave's a fruit. Was not at all sad to see him go after he started dressing and acting more like Elton John than a straight up a rocker.
104 posted on 11/20/2003 10:14:06 AM PST by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: Newton
sorry, still holding my side laughing at the remembrance of a 'crankin 8-Track' ... I'm dying here, someone get me the oxygen ... Ours was in a Vega! Hatchback! Brushed Mags and all baby!
105 posted on 11/20/2003 10:17:07 AM PST by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: My Favorite Headache
Everybody wants some!
106 posted on 11/20/2003 10:17:25 AM PST by mtbrandon49
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To: BlueNgold
Well you know what they say about opinions. And you are definitely entitled to yours.
107 posted on 11/20/2003 10:22:23 AM PST by Laura Earl (128)
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To: sully777
she used to look at me with crazed eyes and yell. "Watch out for that ax Eugene,"

I always preferred running around screaming "One of these days I'm going to cut you into little pieces!"

108 posted on 11/20/2003 10:27:38 AM PST by New Horizon
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To: L.N. Smithee
Roth never sang. He shrieked. He howled. He wailed. But he never once sang.

Perhaps, but at least he entertained.

109 posted on 11/20/2003 10:34:00 AM PST by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: Dan from Michigan
Red! I want red, there's no substitute for red.

This thread is making me weep for the early 80s. Reagan in the White House, hanging out at Uncle Charlies in Mill Valley, and keggers and bonfires at Fort Cronkite. Where did my youth go?
110 posted on 11/20/2003 10:35:43 AM PST by pro libertate
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To: Slings and Arrows
No Steve Perry No Journey.
111 posted on 11/20/2003 10:37:14 AM PST by angcat
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To: Laura Earl
You mean Diamond Dave rocked about 25 years ago, until he became a walking cliche. You DLR fans want the DLR of many years ago, he ain't coming back. I think Eddie and Alex should have tried to start something new without the baggage and expectations that come along with using the VH-moniker. Now they are demoted to being just another nostalgia band.
112 posted on 11/20/2003 10:37:51 AM PST by dfwgator (Seminoles are Gator Bait!!!!)
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)
It was his first solo album, "Crazy From the Heat."

I was in a helicopter squadron, and we recorded a (very off-color) parody called "Just a Rotorhead."
113 posted on 11/20/2003 10:39:39 AM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: TomB
Van Halen's video "Dreams", featuring the Blue Angels, is the best video of all time.

That song kept me sane as I transitioned to civilian life.

114 posted on 11/20/2003 10:42:41 AM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: Laura Earl
Yes ma'am, as are you .. it's been fun .. have a great day
115 posted on 11/20/2003 10:47:55 AM PST by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: angcat
"No Steve Perry No Journey."

Actually, Journey was Journey before Steve Perry. I miss Greg Rolle's contributions.
116 posted on 11/20/2003 10:47:58 AM PST by sully777 (ad absurdum)
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To: angcat
I beg to differ. No Gregg Rolie, no Journey.
117 posted on 11/20/2003 10:48:48 AM PST by pro libertate
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To: BlueNgold
sorry, still holding my side laughing at the remembrance of a 'crankin 8-Track' ... I'm dying here, someone get me the oxygen ... Ours was in a Vega! Hatchback! Brushed Mags and all baby!

8-track in an AMC Gremlin V-8...ah, memories!

118 posted on 11/20/2003 10:50:27 AM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: Sabretooth
LOL
119 posted on 11/20/2003 10:52:04 AM PST by Tribune7 (It's not like he let his secretary drown in his car or something.)
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To: martin_fierro
Just damn, David. Give it up already.

Man, that's pathetic.

120 posted on 11/20/2003 10:54:13 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: My Favorite Headache
Hmmm...I wonder if he needs someone to look after his interests in Cabo. I could be persuaded to relocate for a while. ;-)
121 posted on 11/20/2003 10:55:01 AM PST by StriperSniper (The "mainstream" media is a left bank oxbow lake.)
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To: MarkL
My "Live in Rio" DVD just arrived yesterday... I'll be sitting down to watch it this weekend (along with my Ext Ed Two Towers DVD... No other plans, other than the Chiefs/Raiders game... That should take up the entire weekend!)

Wow! Rush, LOTR, KC Chiefs?! You must be my evil twin. OTOH, maybe I am yours... :-)

122 posted on 11/20/2003 11:04:29 AM PST by WrightWings
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To: pro libertate
Forgive me. Forgive me. Forgive me. I don't have liner notes.

Actually, IMO No Rolie, no classic Santana either.
123 posted on 11/20/2003 11:04:48 AM PST by sully777 (ad absurdum)
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To: gawatchman
Pick up Syd Barrett's 2 solo albums. Very interesting work !!

124 posted on 11/20/2003 11:13:00 AM PST by RightWingNut
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To: sully777
I concur on Rolie and Santana. I think Rolie is vastly underappreciated by the public.

To tie this in with the VH thread: Rolie's band, The Storm, included Ron Wikso, former drummer for David Lee Roth. I actually enjoyed The Storm due to the inclusion of Kevin Chalfont, who was the former lead singer of Steel Breeze from Sacramento.
125 posted on 11/20/2003 11:20:30 AM PST by pro libertate
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To: L.N. Smithee
There was a manic energy to Van Halen was Roth was the front man that was lost when Sammy took over. But before you blame Sammy, remember that when Dave got his own all-star band, (Steve Vai from Zappa, Billy Sheehan from Talas, Gregg Bissonette from Count Basie's band) they didn't have any decent songs.

WHAT?!?!

"Goin' Crazy"..."Elephant Gun"..."Ladies Night in Buffalo"...you say these aren't 'decent'?!?!

As a musician, may I say you are 180% off. If Dave's ego hadn't broken the Band's chemistry in the next album...if Dave could get beyond his overblown ego long enough to allow a band to mature...that band would have ruled as VH did!

126 posted on 11/20/2003 11:23:58 AM PST by Itzlzha (The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote!)
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To: gawatchman
If you haven't heard Vegetable Man and Scream thy Last Scream, you aren't missing anything. Piper at the Gates of Dawn is good, and so is their early single See Emily Play. The rest of the Syd Barrett stuff is pretty bad. He has two solo albums produced by Rick Wright and David Gilmour, but they are just not like Piper at the Gates of Dawn. I think that was Pink Floyd's best moment and it was downhill from there. Animals was OK. All of it except that first one are too depressing for me anymore.
127 posted on 11/20/2003 11:25:32 AM PST by Spandau
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To: sully777
Speaking of horse, Steve Vai was awesome! IMHO HE BLEW AWAY OLD and NEW EDDIE. Too bad Vai left for his solo projects and Roth was overcome with excess.

Actually, Vai left to join Whitesnake...then on to his solo stuff!

Get the chance to see any incarnation of G3...DO IT...but especially if Vai is in it!

128 posted on 11/20/2003 11:26:53 AM PST by Itzlzha (The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote!)
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To: Itzlzha
Steve Vai is no Eddie VH.
129 posted on 11/20/2003 11:31:08 AM PST by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: pro libertate
This thread is making me weep for the early 80s. Reagan in the White House, hanging out at Uncle Charlies in Mill Valley, and keggers and bonfires at Fort Cronkite. Where did my youth go?

AMEN! (except for the Uncle Charlies and bonfires at Fort Cronkite part...grew up in Taxachusetts, so my experiences were VASTLY different!)

130 posted on 11/20/2003 11:36:18 AM PST by Itzlzha (The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote!)
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To: RightWingNut
"Barrett", and "The Madcap Laughs". I already own them, and love them both. I would like very much if I could find the "Vegetable Man" recording that I mentioned earlier-another self portrait. A friend had this song on a bootleg vinyl which had numerous other unreleased works by Barrett with Floyd . He also had another bootleg called "Dark Side of the Moo" which had "Apples and Oranges" which I think was originally released as a single. However, the sound quality was kind of lacking, but I wish I could find a copy of some of these works on CD somewhere, but so far, haven't been able to.
131 posted on 11/20/2003 11:38:32 AM PST by gawatchman
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To: sully777
Yea, now your talkin', Scream Dream was the bomb! i got that originally on 8-track, wore it out , had it on cassette twice wore them out. Then finally got it on C.D never get tired of that one. INCREDIBLE ALBUM!
132 posted on 11/20/2003 11:38:44 AM PST by Gottwnz ("da crows be pickin' at your flesh , and you got no control of da sitchiation")
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To: dennisw
Actually, it is my recollection that while Diamond Dave is indeed Jewish, he was actually born in Bloomington, Indiana where his father, Dr. Nathan Roth, was a podiatrist before he moved his practice and his family to Pasadena. (I had a subscription to Circus magazine in high school and I'm pretty sure that is what I read...)
133 posted on 11/20/2003 11:39:51 AM PST by larlaw
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To: BlueNgold
Steve Vai is no Eddie VH.

Apples and Oranges...both are innovators and virtuosos in their own right. Vai is just a better team player, and more rounded and versatile.

Van Halen kept to himself and his own area, except where he got suckered by that inveterate/serial pedophile Michael Jackson on "Beat It". He was never paid for his performance, BTW.

134 posted on 11/20/2003 11:41:08 AM PST by Itzlzha (The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote!)
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To: RightWingNut
Pick up Syd Barrett's 2 solo albums. Very interesting work !!

I bought Barrett's solo albums about 20 years ago. The first few times I listened, I didn't really get it.

The next few times I listened, I thought they were interesting.

The next few times I listened, I thought it was some of the most endearing music I had ever heard. I fell in love with both albums.

Definately an acquired taste, but songs like, "Baby Lemonade," "The Madcap Laughs" and "Gigolo Aunt," are so fun to listen to they are addictive. "Dominoes" is one of the most moving songs I've ever heard. Great, great stuff.

Heck, I even thought "Rats" was great, so maybe it's just me. :0)

135 posted on 11/20/2003 11:42:21 AM PST by Skooz (We keep you alive to serve this ship. Row well, and live.)
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To: gawatchman
There are numerous Floyd bootleg sites where you can download just about any bootleg imaginable. I have "Vegetable Man" around here somewhere, but you can find it on MP3 any one of a number of places.
136 posted on 11/20/2003 11:44:59 AM PST by Skooz (We keep you alive to serve this ship. Row well, and live.)
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To: Itzlzha
lol. My memory must be going, because Uncle Charlie's was next door in Corte Madera, not Mill Valley. It was a great little nightclub in a strip mall.
137 posted on 11/20/2003 11:47:39 AM PST by pro libertate
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To: Spandau
But I have heard both of them, and liked them. I especially thought Vegetable Man was brilliant. I don't think I have heard any Syd Barrett songs that I did not like. I also really liked "Scarecrow", and "Flaming" on the Piper album. My opinion anyway.
138 posted on 11/20/2003 11:59:00 AM PST by gawatchman
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To: pro libertate
lol. My memory must be going, because Uncle Charlie's was next door in Corte Madera, not Mill Valley. It was a great little nightclub in a strip mall.

Lol. My favorite spot was a mafia run place called "The Channel" on the edge of Boston Harbor...BOY did I have good times there...both on and off stage! Saw some GREAT acts there as well!

Any Mass folk out there remeber "The Channel"?

139 posted on 11/20/2003 12:07:42 PM PST by Itzlzha (The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote!)
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To: My Favorite Headache
Again?

What the hell was that tour last year (or was it early this year?) that had both Sammy AND David trading off frontman roles?
140 posted on 11/20/2003 12:09:27 PM PST by StoneColdGOP (McClintock - In Your Heart, You Know He's Right)
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To: Dan from Michigan
I like "Mas Tequila"...

I also like the song of the same name.
141 posted on 11/20/2003 12:11:30 PM PST by StoneColdGOP (McClintock - In Your Heart, You Know He's Right)
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To: My Favorite Headache
Rock-on Boyzzzzzzzzzzzz....I could use a little "Ice-Cream-Man", or can Sammy even sing that one? Doesn't matter the music is where it's at anyway :)
142 posted on 11/20/2003 12:18:59 PM PST by BethWoodfin (Chirishthunder :))
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To: Skooz
Cool. I problably haven't looked hard enough. If you could steer me to one of those sites, that would be great. I also really liked "Dominoes", and "Wined and Dined" from Barrett.
143 posted on 11/20/2003 12:35:35 PM PST by gawatchman
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To: larlaw
Diamond Dave is indeed Jewish, he was actually born in Bloomington, Indiana where his father, Dr. Nathan Roth, was a podiatrist

The internet confirms this. I am sure I read David Lee Roth's claim he was born in Roxbury, Massachusetts. Which is black now but used to be Jewish. I always felt it didn't sound right. Seems he was putting on the interviewer about Roxbury.

144 posted on 11/20/2003 12:50:03 PM PST by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: gawatchman
I can't rememebr the ones I used to visit. You might want to try http://members.aol.com/Rayman260/pinkroio/pfroio.html

or

http://www.pf-roio.de/

and a good link site at http://www.vic.uklinux.net/music/pfroio.html

Do a google search of Pink Floyd ROIO and you can find dozens of them. Some let you download all you want, others want to trade.

145 posted on 11/20/2003 12:53:51 PM PST by Skooz (We keep you alive to serve this ship. Row well, and live.)
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To: Itzlzha
Van Halen kept to himself and his own area, except where he got suckered by that inveterate/serial pedophile Michael Jackson on "Beat It". He was never paid for his performance, BTW.

Never knew about that... add Eddie Van Halen to the list of people "stiffed" by Michael Jackson. ;^)

The radio and MTV really played Beat It into the ground, but I never got tired of listening to that guitar solo. IMO, it was the only worthwhile part of the tune.

146 posted on 11/20/2003 2:19:41 PM PST by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: dennisw
Guess all that hard rock and heavy metal I was obsessed with in high school paid off. lol

147 posted on 11/20/2003 2:23:46 PM PST by larlaw
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To: gawatchman
It seems to me as if you can hear Sid losing his mind in the music that follows the last verse of Bike on their first album
148 posted on 11/20/2003 2:30:11 PM PST by pdunkin
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To: larlaw
Dang, I was impressed at your memory for such information. And unfortunately I too used to bleed my time reading ye ol' Circus magazine.

 http://www.trouserpress.com/ too used to rock.

 

149 posted on 11/20/2003 2:34:06 PM PST by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: Sabretooth




(I'm not SabERtooth, Im SabREtooth.)

Glad you cleared that up, I couldn't remember making that post
(thought the Alzheimers' was kicking in early).


150 posted on 11/20/2003 2:36:13 PM PST by Sabertooth (No Drivers' Licences for Illegal Aliens. Petition SB60. http://www.saveourlicense.com/n_home.htm)
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