Dang, I hope this picture works. In any case, it is a far cry from the Hollyweird / Classical Greece style armor worn in the movie, no?
Posted on 05/25/2004 7:00:32 AM PDT by JFC
I went to see the movie Troy, reluctantly, last night with my husband. We both turned to each other at the end and said... the left who said the Passion was bloody and so harsh for all eyes, just have no leg to stand on.
I do think Brad Pitt is trying and will be taking the place of Mel Gibson in these type of roles, since Hollywood has left Mel out to dry. I would not recommend seeing it. Unless your into blood, and lots of naked bodies.
It doesn't look like Troy is in for a big payday. It is doing OK but not in relation to the bucks spent on making and marketing the film.
I'm not going to go see it. I already read the book.
My wife made me go see Vanhelsing on Saturday night. Without question one of the worst movies I have ever seen. And I have seen a lot of bad movies.
Russell Crowe is a dough boy
I kinda liked it (or was it the Jr. Mints? :) )
Yes it was definitely one of the worst movies I've ever seen too. What a total waste. A movie that horrible really should have had a ton of T&A and it didn't even have that.
Nope. guess not. Anyway, the picture is here:
http://www.beloit.edu/~classics/Trojan%20War%20Site/Archaeology/Dendra_Armor_Large(c.1500-1400BCE).jpg
Usually sell well in Hollywierd.
Somehow, I'm not seeing Brad Pitt as Achilles.
Eh, if HBO picks it up I might give it a look...otherwise, I can do without it.
How Hollyweird can take a story which is entirely based on the interactions of pagan gods and goddesses and how they impact mortals, delete these personalities entirely, and produce a film based on the story, is beyond me. My only explanation is that the atheists who run Hollyweird find pagan gods and goddesses as offensive as the Judaeo-Christian One.
As for the comparison with "The Passion", the latter movie is almost entirely constructed around the horrific ordeal by torture of the Son of God. I don't believe you can compare it to a movie featuring typical battle scenes in a sword and shield type epic. Its like comparing violence with detailed sadism, which are not really the same things. I didn't see Troy, but read the Illiad. The Illad is replete with battle scenes, but I can't recall any detailed torturing of anybody.
The mere fact that Brad Pitt is in Troy is enough to keep me from viewing it. I remember how he and his wife of "Friends" fame dishonored the President's daughter.
(I might have said disrespected to be more politically correct. Since Honor no longer has any meaning in our society, I guess "to disrespect" as a verb has replaced to dishonor - a true verb.)
The Illiad itself is a masterpiece of battle, illustrating vividly how humans are often the prisoners of their fates or inner passions. I strongly suggest reading it in a good translation if you can't follow the original Greek.
I have heard the movie has been turned into a new edition designed as some kind of hackneyed anti-war flick.
But the CGI battle and ship scenes were great, Peter O'Toole's performance as Priam was masterful, and the guy who played Agamemnon cracked me up every time he was on the screen.
So a mixed bag. Not horrible, but much less than it could have been. Silly as it was, I think I liked Van Helsing better.
I took my two sons (18, 21) to see Van Helsing and we all areed. Not a good movie. Very disappointing. I haven't seen Troy but I also heard it wasn't very good unless you want to see Brad Pitt half naked. I'm too old for Brad. I'll take Mel any day.
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Nice statue. The only thing it lacks is the typical figure 8 shaped shiled used by Myceanean warriors.
The Illad describes warfare between individual champions - sort of like the kiind of fighting that in the popular mind occurred in Medieval European battles. Classical Greek battles were between close formations of opposing troops in hoplite armour. Apparently the flick depicted individuals fighting each other in classical hoplite armor, not Mycenaean type armor.
The anachronisms present in the Illiad, which was written long after Mycenaean times, argue to the valid basis of the story.
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