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GrandForksHarald.com ^ | 2-10-05 | Mike Troy

Posted on 02/14/2005 5:26:50 AM PST by SheLion

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To: LowInMo

Your idea of smoking only restaurants is a great one.

The problem is you can't do it in Massachusetts,


141 posted on 02/14/2005 7:49:10 PM PST by Mears ("Call me irresponsible".)
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To: Gabz
"Let's remember to remind anyone supporting government smoking bans they are also supporting gun control and prohibition."

And that doesn't even scratch the surface, Gabz.

They also support the land grabs by the BLM in the ranching countries of Wyoming, Utah and the Dakotas.
They support the monitors in new automobiles which record your driving activities.
They support the seizure of private wetlands on the coasts of Texas, Louisiana and Florida by the Corps of Engineers.
They support the government's right to tell a landowner what he can and can't do with his own property if endangered species are involved.

All of this only scratches the surface, too, and remember:

"It's for your own good!" - the mantra of the liberal establishment.

142 posted on 02/14/2005 7:49:13 PM PST by TexasCowboy (Texan by birth, citizen of Jesusland by the Grace of God)
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To: usgator

Government intrusion in private business can never be justified. This is why so many businesses are outsourcing----less government intrusion,less lawsuits,and less hassle!


143 posted on 02/14/2005 7:51:52 PM PST by Mears ("Call me irresponsible".)
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To: shekkian
So years from now, while you are struggling to hike up a flight of stairs, I'l still be running up two at a time. I'll still have my youthful glow while you'll be sucking on an oxygen bottle.

Let's see, I am over 40 and smoke (admittedly not a lot, though). I also jog, when weather permits, have a brown-belt in Karate and an orange belt in Krav Maga.

mmmmmmm oxygen bottle.

144 posted on 02/14/2005 7:52:24 PM PST by usgator
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To: Mears
Government intrusion in private business can never be justified. This is why so many businesses are outsourcing----less government intrusion,less lawsuits,and less hassle!

Of course, and I would normally agree with you, but having recently been fired from a long time job because of discrimination, I am now glad that there are laws to fight back with.

145 posted on 02/14/2005 7:55:28 PM PST by usgator
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To: TexasCowboy

Hey,T.C.----they're baaaaaack!!!!!!!


146 posted on 02/14/2005 8:00:03 PM PST by Mears ("Call me irresponsible".)
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To: Mears
I think this battle is like the movie, "Aliens".

I think somewhere there's a momma liberal who keeps shoving these copies of herself out of her tail.
All of them are pretty much alike.

Nuke 'em! That's the only way to be sure!

147 posted on 02/14/2005 8:08:15 PM PST by TexasCowboy (Texan by birth, citizen of Jesusland by the Grace of God)
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To: TexasCowboy; Gabz; SheLion; Madame Dufarge

You've got that right,they are like Aliens.

Gonna sign off now,have a smoke,stink up my house,get some filth on my windows,smell up my hair and clothing,and cause my dog to suffer extreme distress from the smoke.

I will then go,two steps at a time,upstairs to my bedroom and go to sleep.

Life is good!!!

Good night!


148 posted on 02/14/2005 8:15:03 PM PST by Mears ("Call me irresponsible".)
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To: TexasCowboy; Mears
Huh. So anyone who disagrees with you is automatically a liberal. How very open minded of you to accept another person's point of view.

Isn't that what everyone keeps saying about liberals?

Maybe they should nuke hypocrites from texas and their "mommas".

oh, by the way weren't you the one who posted "Calm down, FRiend" a while back? Take your own advise, pardner.

149 posted on 02/14/2005 8:17:10 PM PST by usgator
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To: Gabz
Rush has been making the point and providing the stories replete with statistics, that smoking bans hurt businesses for years.

Who are you going to believe, Rush or vigilante anti-smokers who created the bogus studies that second hand smoke causes cancer (and other horrendous diseases)?

150 posted on 02/14/2005 8:20:58 PM PST by TOUGH STOUGH (If starvation & dehydration are painless, make them the method of preference for Capital Punishment.)
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To: Garnet Dawn

That was darn good, Garnet. Very enjoyable reading and some excellent points!


151 posted on 02/14/2005 8:29:59 PM PST by TOUGH STOUGH (If starvation & dehydration are painless, make them the method of preference for Capital Punishment.)
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To: usgator

Fat people are already in the crosshairs.

I smoke, I don't smoke, my life does not revolve around whether I smoke or not.

I know people who's lives actually revolve around promoting smoking bans, getting people to quit smoking, and promoting removing children from homes of smokers.

And they call me an addict???????

I spent the better part of the day tearing out a ceiling, I would venture to say the stuff that was coming down from there is more dangerous than any second hand smoke any whiner has ever encountered. And as soon as the weather warms up a little bit, I'm going to be tearing off the asbestos shingles on my house........

If I wind up with some respiratory ailment, who can say for a fact it was my smoking? NO ONE. I've dealt with asbestos shingles and such for most of my life. As I mentioned above, I tore down the asbestos laden tile ceiling in my bedroom today. I had the exact same type ceilings when I was growing up. And tore those out with my dad long before I ever started smoking.

The ban addicts are loons - they think if they stop everyone from smoking all will be well and good. I'd like to know how much they are willing to pay to get rid of smoking. If you notice, none of them are in favor of making tobacco illegal. Just making smokers pariahs that foot their bills.


152 posted on 02/14/2005 8:32:32 PM PST by Gabz (Anti-smoker gnatzies...small minds buzzing in your business..............SWAT'EM)
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To: Gabz
I know people who's lives actually revolve around promoting smoking bans, getting people to quit smoking, and promoting removing children from homes of smokers.

And they call me an addict???????

Hahaha ... good point.

Fat people are already in the crosshairs.

True. First they are going after places like McDonald's (like they did the tobacco co's). Next they'll go after overweight people themselves (like they are now with smokers).

So how long before we see "Obese" and "Non-Obese" sections in restaurants?

153 posted on 02/14/2005 8:40:44 PM PST by usgator
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To: TexasCowboy

Thank you for adding the rest.

I had only used smoking, guns, and alcohol because of my knowlege of the connection with RWJF.

Anyone that buys a product from Johnson & Johnson is supporting the erosion of the Consitution. Anyone that supports in any way any ban on the use of tobacco products is supporting gun control and alcohol prohibition.

Plain and simple - and that is the way it must be stated.


154 posted on 02/14/2005 8:47:31 PM PST by Gabz (Anti-smoker gnatzies...small minds buzzing in your business..............SWAT'EM)
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To: CSM
A few good words from one of my all time personal favorites, Walter Williams.

I also enjoyed and learned from, your comments. Well done.

155 posted on 02/14/2005 8:49:22 PM PST by TOUGH STOUGH (If starvation & dehydration are painless, make them the method of preference for Capital Punishment.)
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To: Mears

ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sleep well. my FRiend, I'm not far behind you.


156 posted on 02/14/2005 8:49:40 PM PST by Gabz (Anti-smoker gnatzies...small minds buzzing in your business..............SWAT'EM)
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To: SheLion
"When I saw your post, I thought, "oh no, YOU again."

I must say, I got a kick out of that comment, SL !!!!!! Posters on these smoking threads sure don't hold back, particularly the anti-smokers.

157 posted on 02/14/2005 8:55:15 PM PST by TOUGH STOUGH (If starvation & dehydration are painless, make them the method of preference for Capital Punishment.)
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To: Gabz

Can you please tll me what RWJF is?


158 posted on 02/14/2005 8:59:47 PM PST by TOUGH STOUGH (If starvation & dehydration are painless, make them the method of preference for Capital Punishment.)
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To: TOUGH STOUGH
Who are you going to believe, Rush or vigilante anti-smokers who created the bogus studies that second hand smoke causes cancer (and other horrendous diseases)?

To be honest, neither. I don't need Rush to tell me what I already know from looking at the books of places before and after bans.

And I've read the same studies the antis have created their bogus headlines from. I've done everything I possibly can to explain that the headlines the MSM spew out have nothing to do with the reality, but those who choose to be believers will not listen to reason.

The selectiveness of some regarding the MSM is truly amazing. I've seen so many on threads about smoking bans claiming SHS is a killer, that I have also seen on threads trasing the MSM for their biased and bogus reporting.

I find it very typical - government intervention/control is just fine with them, as long as it suits their purpose. But they are the first to scream when it is their ox being gored.

I can not and will not take that position.

159 posted on 02/14/2005 9:03:36 PM PST by Gabz (Anti-smoker gnatzies...small minds buzzing in your business..............SWAT'EM)
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To: usgator
Unwad your panties!

What makes you think my remark was intended for you?
Do you think you're that important? If it had been addressed to you, I would have pinged you.

I wasn't the one who told you to calm down. That was Gabz.
I wouldn't have said it that way.

160 posted on 02/14/2005 9:04:18 PM PST by TexasCowboy (Texan by birth, citizen of Jesusland by the Grace of God)
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