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Posted on 03/16/2005 7:07:22 PM PST by Iam1ru1-2

THE LAW IS THE LAW

So if the US government determines that it is against the law for the words "under God" to be on our money,

then, so be it.

And if that same government decides that the "Ten Commandments" are not to be used in or on a government installation,

then, so be it.

And since they already have prohibited any prayer in the schools, on which they deem their authority,

then so be it.

I say, "so be it," because 'I would like to be a law abiding US citizen.'

I say, "so be it," because 'I would like to think' that smarter people than I are in positions to make good decisions.

I would like to think that those people have the American Publics' best interests at heart.

BUT, YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE I'D LIKE?

Since we can't pray to God, can't Trust in God and cannot Post His Commandments in Government buildings,

I don't believe the Government and it's employees should participate in the Easter and Christmas celebrations which honor the God that our government is eliminating from many facets of American life.

I'd like my mail delivered on Christmas, Good Friday, Thanksgiving & Easter.

After all, it's just another day.

I'd like the US Supreme Court to be in session on Christmas, Good Friday, Thanksgiving & Easter as well as Sundays.

After all, it's just another day.

I'd like the Senate and the House of Representatives to not have to worry about getting home for the "Christmas Break."

After all it's just another da.

I'm thinking that a lot of my taxpayer dollars could be saved, if all government offices & services would work on Christmas, Good Friday & Easter.

It shouldn't cost any overtime since those would be just like any other day of the week to a government that is trying to be "politically correct."

In fact....

I think that our government should work on Sundays (initially set aside for worshipping God...) because, after all,

our government says that it should be just another day....

What do you all think????

If this idea gets to enough people, maybe our elected officials will stop giving in to the minority opinions and begin, once again, to represent the 'majority' of ALL of the American people.

SO BE IT...........

Please Dear Lord,

Give us the help needed to keep you in our country!

'Amen' and 'Amen'

Touche!

These are definitely things many never thought about but from now on, I think we should be sure to questions those in government who support these changes.

At the top, it says "I hope this makes its way around the USA several times over!!!!!"

Let's see that it does. Place this in your mailbox and keep it in your mailbox and resend it whenever someone new comes along.


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1 posted on 03/16/2005 7:07:23 PM PST by Iam1ru1-2
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To: Iam1ru1-2; Gabz
And since they already have prohibited any prayer in the schools, on which they deem their authority

My kids can and do pray in their public school. Do your homework before you post bogus emails, thank you.

2 posted on 03/16/2005 7:14:47 PM PST by annyokie (Laissez les bons temps rouler !)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Best bet is to respect only those laws passed after due deliberation by a legislative body.


3 posted on 03/16/2005 7:16:48 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: annyokie

"My kids can and do pray in their public school. Do your homework before you post bogus emails, thank you."

Respond to his total argument, not just a snippet.

Thank you.


4 posted on 03/16/2005 7:22:17 PM PST by Prost1 (New AG, Berger still free!)
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To: Prost1

Let him make his own argument, thank you. I am totally sick of the public school bashing that goes on on this forum.


5 posted on 03/16/2005 7:28:07 PM PST by annyokie (Laissez les bons temps rouler !)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Bump


6 posted on 03/16/2005 7:30:08 PM PST by sport
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To: Iam1ru1-2

What if they make it illegal for money to have the phrase? It will be a crime to have, and another crime to scribble it out.


7 posted on 03/16/2005 7:32:44 PM PST by SteveMcKing
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To: Iam1ru1-2

yes, and why not? the only holidays that should be observed are ones that are not associated with ANY religion.

that leaves the Political Holidays (President's day, Martin Luther King day, Labor day, Memorial day, etc...if we need more we could have Ronald Regan Day and United States Marine Corps Day, to suggest a few,)

and pagan holidays like Halloween could also be celebrated with time off.

we would also be able to keep New Year's Day

more? i need help here. its too exciting to contemplate.


8 posted on 03/16/2005 7:33:43 PM PST by kralcmot (diogenes, the light in search for the truth)
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To: kralcmot

BBQ day. Sometime in the summer.


9 posted on 03/16/2005 7:36:20 PM PST by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do.)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Have you ever read or watch the play "A Man for all Seasons?"

Imagine if you will, Hindu's take over this country, they start saying that it was Shiva's (or whatever their "god" is named) goal to bring Hindu's to America and because of that America is a Hindu country. And they start by changing under God to Under Shiva. How would you feel?

I am confident in my Christianity, if we keep pushing our Religion down the throats non-christians (yes, they are wrong, and probably going to hell, but there is nothing we can do about it other than set a good example), we are no better than the Mullahs of Iran.


10 posted on 03/16/2005 7:37:31 PM PST by HKTechBoy (There is no gray area in Life)
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To: Iam1ru1-2
Since we can't pray to God...

Who told you that you can't pray to God. And if I was a kid in school today, I'd start a prayer group just because they told me I couldn't.

11 posted on 03/16/2005 7:39:21 PM PST by BJungNan
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To: Iam1ru1-2

I got this spam-o-gram in my inbox last month.


12 posted on 03/16/2005 7:40:45 PM PST by Mad Mammoth
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Oh, fer cryin out loud, you got it backwards, BIGTIME.

Everyday the government is "closed" is one less day they have to "Govern" you.


13 posted on 03/16/2005 7:42:40 PM PST by JoeSixPack1 (@100 mph, you have no friends.)
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To: annyokie

For now.


14 posted on 03/16/2005 7:45:48 PM PST by Iam1ru1-2
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To: Iam1ru1-2

WHAT IS THE LAW? "Not to go on all fours, that is the law!"

WHAT IS THE LAW? "Not to spill blood, that is the law!"

WHAT IS THE LAW? "Not to kill, that is the law!"


15 posted on 03/16/2005 7:46:08 PM PST by solitas (So what if I support a platform that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.3.7)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

You know I never consider sending these things along, but I think this is worth it!


16 posted on 03/16/2005 7:47:56 PM PST by jocon307
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To: kralcmot

You should look up the origins of these holidays. They were all based on Religious reasons.

So why aren't you working every Sunday, why are you taking Christmas, Easter, Thanksgiving Days off? Why don't you practice what you preach. Bigot!!


17 posted on 03/16/2005 7:50:15 PM PST by Iam1ru1-2
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To: Iam1ru1-2

An excellent essay. Thanks for posting it. The freeloading secular-humanists aren't so willing to actually live by their principles when they become inconvenient or personally costly, it seems.


18 posted on 03/16/2005 7:50:45 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: BJungNan

and you or your kid would be kicked out of school, and the ACLU would sue you in court because, according to them, "There IS a separation of Church and state" in the 1st amendment to the Constitution.


19 posted on 03/16/2005 7:53:06 PM PST by Iam1ru1-2
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To: solitas

WHAT IS THE LAW? "Not to go on all fours, that is the law!"

WHAT IS THE LAW? "Not to spill blood, that is the law!"

WHAT IS THE LAW? "Not to kill, that is the law!"

According to WHO?


20 posted on 03/16/2005 7:54:13 PM PST by Iam1ru1-2
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To: Iam1ru1-2

I don't see anything changing. We live in a RED state (every town, every county) and Tom Coburn is our new Senator.

Last Tuesday, I attended my youngest child's concert wherein they said the Pledge of Allegiance, a prayer, sang several Patriotic songs including the National Anthem and the state song was soloed by a beautiful beautifully voiced little girl. The kids all wore red white and blue clothing.

Oh, did I mention that the event was held at an Evangelical Church? Yeah, God ain't present at my kids' "publick skools."


21 posted on 03/16/2005 7:55:05 PM PST by annyokie (Laissez les bons temps rouler !)
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To: HKTechBoy

There is nothing at all wrong with a society whose members are overwhelmingly adherents to a particular religion to establish national holidays for all to observe. Those who are non-adherents can respectfully rest and reflect and recreate in their own ways if they wish to. No one is being forced to offer worship or praise in any particular fashion.


22 posted on 03/16/2005 7:56:21 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Iam1ru1-2

I like it.

I like the short version...make them paddle on hand made rafts to Kooba.


23 posted on 03/16/2005 7:57:59 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (I just took a Muhammad and wiped my Jihadist with Mein Koran...come and get me nutbags.)
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To: annyokie
My kids can and do pray in their public school. Do your homework before you post bogus emails, thank you.

Then lucky you. A lot of schools have prohibitions about praying in schools and the list is growing every day. You should do your homework before you jump on someone and call their postings bogus!

24 posted on 03/16/2005 7:58:00 PM PST by calex59
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To: Iam1ru1-2

and pagan holidays like Halloween could also be celebrated with time off.

we would also be able to keep New Year's Day

So why aren't you working every Sunday, why are you taking Christmas, Easter, Thanksgiving Days off? Why don't you practice what you preach. Bigot!!

fellow Freeper, i do not want a fight with you about holidays. my posting was in jest. please accept my apologies if i have offened you.


25 posted on 03/16/2005 7:58:11 PM PST by kralcmot (diogenes, the light in search for the truth)
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To: kralcmot

oops "offended" that was a typo


26 posted on 03/16/2005 7:59:44 PM PST by kralcmot (diogenes, the light in search for the truth)
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To: calex59

Where do you live? I moved on purpose so that my kids would have the freedom that they do.

FWIW, I grew up and went to school in California and have raised my children in California, Pennsylvania and Oklahoma. The Union is not a monolith.


27 posted on 03/16/2005 8:01:41 PM PST by annyokie (Laissez les bons temps rouler !)
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To: annyokie
I am totally sick of the public school bashing that goes on on this forum.

You mean government schools. And why do you call legitimate criticism, bashing? I think the public school system is one of the greatest failures in America. If you disagree let's start a thread and see why.

It' 11 pm on the East Coast. You have all night to think of a reply because I am going to bed.

28 posted on 03/16/2005 8:04:11 PM PST by groanup (http://www.fairtax.org)
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To: groanup

Go to bed, you chicken. I've had kids in public and private schools for over twenty years. Call me on where I'm wrong.


29 posted on 03/16/2005 8:07:02 PM PST by annyokie (Laissez les bons temps rouler !)
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To: annyokie

Check this out and tell me what you think.

http://mwhodges.home.att.net/new_96_report.htm

3 pictures tell the story.

http://mwhodges.home.att.net/new_96_report.htm#pictures


30 posted on 03/16/2005 9:18:54 PM PST by KDD
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To: KDD

Just ignore her. She always shows up on public school threads. She lies like a rug.


31 posted on 03/16/2005 9:24:55 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: annyokie

2005

http://mwhodges.home.att.net/education.htm

the trend continues.


32 posted on 03/16/2005 9:25:23 PM PST by KDD
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To: annyokie
I am totally sick of the public school bashing that goes on on this forum.

How many public school teachers enroll their kids in - public school? How many parents with vouchers would prefer to keep their own kids in - public school? Is that "bashing"? Have I bashed? Clubbed? Assaulted? Attacked? Beaten? Bloodied? That is what bash means, isn't it?

33 posted on 03/16/2005 9:34:24 PM PST by sevry
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To: nmh
I went to an all male public high school.

ROTC was required from 10th grade to graduation.

Discipline was tight and students were polite.

That was 35 years ago. Times changed...teachers innovated themselves to the point irrelevance to their students.

The downturn in teacher quality coincided with the advent of the teachers union. It became chic for academia to lap up the pap fed to them by socialist Utopians. Now we have the stupidest students per capita then any nation in the developed world. There is a connection.
34 posted on 03/16/2005 9:43:31 PM PST by KDD
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To: annyokie

'While many of our schools appear to avoid solid academic training in favor of 'self-esteem' training, this must be working since in the latest round of international tests American students led the world in one department: 'self-esteem.' As in previous international tests, American students had the highest perception of how well they had done. 70% said they thought they had done well. This would be comic if it were not so tragic. While there are many particular things that can be criticized in our public schools, many critics often miss the point when they fail to see that the key to all these counterproductive policies are the people who make them. If we purged our public schools of all the silliness there today, we would have accomplished little if the same kinds of people were left in place to bring in new non-academic nonsense tomorrow. Raising teacher salaries will not fix it.' (Professor Thomas Sowell).


35 posted on 03/16/2005 9:49:10 PM PST by KDD
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To: Iam1ru1-2

This should have been posted in General Interest/Chat, not in News/Current Events.


36 posted on 03/16/2005 9:58:01 PM PST by streetpreacher (The fires of hell burn hot and try to destroy me, I run to your will Oh God I know you’ll restore me)
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To: nmh; KDD
Just ignore her. She always shows up on public school threads. She lies like a rug.

NEA plant.

37 posted on 03/16/2005 9:59:46 PM PST by streetpreacher (The fires of hell burn hot and try to destroy me, I run to your will Oh God I know you’ll restore me)
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To: calex59
Then lucky you. A lot of schools have prohibitions about praying in schools and the list is growing every day.

I really doubt that this is the case. Do you have source for this claim?

38 posted on 03/16/2005 10:31:54 PM PST by BMCDA
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To: streetpreacher
If she says she has had a good experience with the schools her children attend I have no reason to doubt her.

There are doubtless some fine public schools in this country but they are not the norm.

Over-all, by any measurable standard, our public schools do a poor job educating our students. It really isn't even a matter of debate so much as it is a matter of documented facts. At this point we should be long past the point of acceptance of these facts and the debate should center on how to repair the damage done. If we start now, the process will still take decades to correct all the pathologies that are inherent in todays edu. system.
39 posted on 03/16/2005 10:40:52 PM PST by KDD
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To: Iam1ru1-2
According to WHO?

http://www.scifilm.org/reviews3/islanddrmoreau.html

(and, it's: WHOM) :)

40 posted on 03/17/2005 4:06:38 AM PST by solitas (So what if I support a platform that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.3.7)
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To: muawiyah
Best bet is to respect only those laws passed after due deliberation by a legislative body.

Those are some of the worst laws. Best bet is to recognise that the law is very imperfect. There are some sound principles that almost everyone consents to and then there are a lot of perversions best observed in the breech, as they mostly are.

41 posted on 03/17/2005 4:19:16 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: annyokie
I've had kids in public and private schools for over twenty years. Call me on where I'm wrong.

So have I. But their mother doesn't have such a lack of breeding as to use the word "chicken" when debating.

42 posted on 03/17/2005 6:38:49 AM PST by groanup (http://www.fairtax.org)
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To: AndyJackson
BTW, if you think laws passed by an elected legislature are among the worst, can you imagine if you had an unelected dictator like Idi Amin passing your laws for you?

Check for loose screws today.

43 posted on 03/17/2005 9:21:30 AM PST by muawiyah
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