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Carla Sauer Iyer Affidavit - FAKE??
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/aff2-terri.pdf ^

Posted on 03/21/2005 11:54:31 AM PST by BB62

I passed along the affidavit which many of us have seen, presumably by Carla Sauer Iyer. Is it FAKE or real??

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/aff2-terri.pdf

My sister, a notary public (not in FL), came back with the following:

"Please do not believe everything you read. This supposed notarized document is not legal…it is missing the county in which the notary resides, along with her name printed, typed or stamped beneath her signature. In addition, there is no record of a Patricia Anderson with that commission number listed with the state of Florida. In other words, like most of the stuff you get via email, IT IS A HOAX designed to get you to believe something that is completely fabricated. I hope you forward this information to the same people to whom you sent the original email."

Forgive my unsureness with posting. I hope I have put things in the right place in this post.

So... I throw open the subject to those more knowledgeable than I - is it fake? One thing I noticed and questioned, even before receiving my sister's e-mail, was the neither the "did/did not" was circled at the end of the document. I found that very strange.

BB62


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To: Telit Likitis

Okay, okay - NOW this is really going somewhere!

I would really like to nail down the problem with the notary number (comission #?) on the document though. Why can't I confirm it?

I thought that some commissions never expired (like those of attorneys?), but the one on the supposed document has an expiration date.

Commission # - how about it? Can anyone explain that?

It may be a minor point, but the lack of a name (and whether an oath was taken) really bothers me too - an attorney should know better - don't you agree?


BB62


21 posted on 03/21/2005 12:42:50 PM PST by BB62
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To: Howlin; Long Cut; Hildy; hchutch

We have our own Memogate here.

We've been Ratherized bigtime in this case...

I'm waiting for some FReeper to tell me: "Courage."


22 posted on 03/21/2005 12:45:33 PM PST by Poohbah (If it's called "collateral damage," how come I can't use it to secure a loan?)
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To: Poohbah; Smartaleck; robertpaulsen; veronica; steve-b; Neets
PING! Thanks, Pooh.

We can probably count on a LOT of phony documents like this showing up in this case as it draws to a close.

Next week, there will be a whole big s-load of congresscritters running for cover as more of this gets out, and the polls keep coming in.

The GOP has a huge black eye because of this. And the Hildebeast is grinning like a cat with canary feathers on its chin.

23 posted on 03/21/2005 12:52:05 PM PST by Long Cut ("Looks like meat's back on the menu, Boys!")
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To: BB62
it is missing the county in which the notary resides, along with her name printed, typed or stamped beneath her signature.

Precisely.

And the signatures should have been on a separate page.

And the notary stamp is required to be stamped OVER the notary's name, not under the "Commission expires" date, which, as I am sure you noticed, is missing.

24 posted on 03/21/2005 12:53:10 PM PST by Howlin
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To: GraceCoolidge

All notary seals have the county in which they are issued on them; it's required by law.


25 posted on 03/21/2005 12:56:02 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Marie Antoinette

The law frowns on people notarazing documents that they have a "vested" interest in; I surely hope she didn't.

Anyway, if she did, I'd fire her just on the basis of that "legal document."


26 posted on 03/21/2005 12:58:05 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Poohbah; Long Cut; Howlin; Hildy; veronica; Neets

If so, then the folks who pushed the GOP into this need to pay one HELL of a price. As in, they NEED to get shut out.


27 posted on 03/21/2005 12:59:25 PM PST by hchutch ("But, Rally, they're SMOKE GRENADES.")
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To: BB62

I might add that if the attorney DID notarize it, which she shouldn't have, she should have put her "Esq." on it to indicate who she was.


28 posted on 03/21/2005 1:00:24 PM PST by Howlin
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To: BB62
As much as I have advocated for Terri, I have considered that it could be deceptive, manufactured, whatever.

It could be true for all I know.

I'm reading between lines on all of this. I don't really need to read anything. I could not personally kill her.

29 posted on 03/21/2005 1:00:32 PM PST by Aliska
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To: Aliska

But do the ends justify the means?


30 posted on 03/21/2005 1:02:37 PM PST by hchutch ("But, Rally, they're SMOKE GRENADES.")
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To: BB62
You post on a thread or start your own thread and take your chances.

You can write a vanity post, but that isn't generally a good idea. If you don't have good sources for your information, it's best not to start a new thread on it.

But I don't run this place. Lucky for that.

31 posted on 03/21/2005 1:03:53 PM PST by Aliska
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To: hchutch
I don't know which of my posts you are responding to. Assuming my consideration that it could be fake, generally, no, the ends never justifity the means, whether you are on the right side or wrong side.

There are deceptions in war all the time to save lives, so they could possibly be morally condoned.

Generally, I don't like to be deceived, and once I find out I have been, it prejudices my opinion from thenceforth.

32 posted on 03/21/2005 1:12:36 PM PST by Aliska
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To: Howlin
And the notary stamp is required to be stamped OVER the notary's name and All notary seals have the county in which they are issued on them; it's required by law.

Not so....it depends on the state. In SC you do not need to put the seal over the name and the seal does not have the county name on it.

33 posted on 03/21/2005 1:12:59 PM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Someone from Florida might have a good idea how to tell with this...


34 posted on 03/21/2005 1:14:26 PM PST by hchutch ("But, Rally, they're SMOKE GRENADES.")
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To: 2nd amendment mama

I've certainly never seen it that way. I've seen a space for the stamp, but I have never seen one with a county on it.


35 posted on 03/21/2005 1:16:49 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Long Cut

Thanks.....

Both Rush and Foxnews have quoted from this.

I've asked two or three posters for links to the origianl document. Funny thing, nothing came back. Imagine that! LOL


36 posted on 03/21/2005 1:17:29 PM PST by Smartaleck
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To: Momto2

"I believe it is legit - it has been posted over 100 times on various sites (Including ABC News ) which isn't a friend of Terri.... I doubt they would print this if it were a hoax.... Easy enough to look up the legal documents if you have access to Legal site software....."

I believe you are right, but do you happen to have a link to another example of her notarization?

Now, if what someone else said is right - that you can't notarize something which you have an interest in - that is troubling...


BB62


37 posted on 03/21/2005 1:19:12 PM PST by BB62
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To: BB62

There are 23 Patricia Anderson's listed. A google search of Pat Anderson and Schiavo will bring up many references.

Thomas Brodersen notarized the Heidi Law deposition and
Bob Roberts notarized Trudy Capone's affidavit which can be found here: http://www.zimp.org/stuff/nav.htm


38 posted on 03/21/2005 1:19:40 PM PST by Beach_Babe
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To: Howlin

"Anyway, if she did, I'd fire her just on the basis of that "legal document."

Anyone know if Dan Rather vetted this before it was offered up on FR? He's really quite good at such things? LOL


39 posted on 03/21/2005 1:20:02 PM PST by Smartaleck
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To: Howlin
but I have never seen one with a county on it.

In post #25 you said just the opposite "All notary seals have the county in which they are issued on them; it's required by law."

40 posted on 03/21/2005 1:28:41 PM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org Self defense is a basic human right!)
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