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Does Johnny Depp Deserve YOUR Money?
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Posted on 06/30/2005 4:15:25 AM PDT by Jon Alvarez

Boycott Alert: Charlie and the Chocolate Factory

Release Date: July 15, 2005
Starring: Johnny Depp

"America is dumb, it's like a dumb puppy that has big teeth that can bite and hurt you, aggressive."

--Johnny Depp, in Berlin, Germany, 2003


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KEYWORDS: antiamerican; boycott; chocolatefactory; french; hollyweird; hollywood; johnnydepp; liberal
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To: Mamzelle
Scarecrow...Amazon.com $4.99 (Gene Wilder TV)1972
101 posted on 06/30/2005 7:10:32 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: Jon Alvarez

Although I dislike Johnny Depp's political views, they wouldn't keep me from seeing his films.

Even actors have a right to their opinions. The problem is when they think themselves authorities because of their celebrityhood. Depp, I don't think, stands on a soapbox.


102 posted on 06/30/2005 7:11:02 AM PDT by MoochPooch (A righteous person worries about his or her behavior, an extremist about everyone else's.)
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Hey Depp...

shut up and sing.
103 posted on 06/30/2005 7:12:01 AM PDT by evets (</sarcasm>)
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To: HairOfTheDog

In the tradition of european fairy tales, children were not immune from coming to harm. That would classify it as a dark book by today's standards.


104 posted on 06/30/2005 7:15:18 AM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: All
The original movie version of "Willy Wonka" is one of those movies that everybody remembers fondly, but if you go back and actually watch it again, it's awful.

And that Grandpa Joe is the biggest load in the history of all movies! He lays there like a lump for twenty years, while his grandson tries to scrap together some living for the whole family.

About ten minutes after the kid gets tickets to someplace really cool, that lazy old bastard is up and dancing around the room!

If I was Charlie, I would have kicked his skinny old ass.

105 posted on 06/30/2005 7:17:07 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: durasell

It has a dark look because the director is TIM BURTON... who ALWAYS does his films stylized.. IE.. original Batman, Edward Scissor Hands, Big Fish etc...

I don't care much for Depp's off screen politics, but I will say this.

He did wise up and realize that the work he does does matter and influences children... once his kids were born he started only doing films that he felt were appropriate. I salute him for that, and frankly as much as I don't agree with his politics he is a much better actor than most of the clowns in Hollywood today.

I have a suspicion that this film will flop, largely because there is no need to redo it... The original stands the test of time.


106 posted on 06/30/2005 7:17:13 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: durasell

Well, yeah - they do sortof come to harm, though we are told, even in the book, that they'll be fine. It wasn't ~scary~ and dark. I haven't seen the trailer, I'm not really interested in seeing this, but the level of ~scary~ in the first movie is all that was ever in the book. It wasn't a suspense thriller or anything.


107 posted on 06/30/2005 7:17:36 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: dead

LOL


108 posted on 06/30/2005 7:18:24 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: dead
I liked Kerry's remake... it was funny.

109 posted on 06/30/2005 7:18:56 AM PDT by evets (</sarcasm>)
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To: 7thson

So, you research every actor, director, producer for religious and moral views before seeing a movie?


110 posted on 06/30/2005 7:19:13 AM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

And that has to do with what I said....how?


111 posted on 06/30/2005 7:23:45 AM PDT by newcats
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To: HairOfTheDog

The intended audience for the books was pre-teen. If you're seven or eight, then the books are suspense thrillers.


112 posted on 06/30/2005 7:25:57 AM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: durasell

OK - I can see that.... but suspense thriller is relative.... it was age appropriate for children. It wasn't "Steven King" dark.


113 posted on 06/30/2005 7:27:39 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Non-Sequitur

Liked P of C. Took a long time for me to ever see one of his movies after Edward Scissorhands. Will go see this one. I don't think the Oompa Loompa song, if it's even in there, will be very light as it was in the original. This version looks very dark


114 posted on 06/30/2005 7:30:26 AM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: HairOfTheDog

No, not "steven king dark" and I wouldn't take a pre-teen to see most of the movies based on his books. People forget these days, there are books and movies for kids and books and movies for adults (when I say adults, I don't just mean x-rated, but mature themes).

By the way, I'm shocked that nobody has jumped on Dahl for being a Satanist, since he did write The Witches.


115 posted on 06/30/2005 7:31:55 AM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: mlmr

Actually he said he played it like keith richards.


116 posted on 06/30/2005 7:34:07 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: TNCMAXQ

"He is downright ugly, IMO. Why is he considered such a sex symbol??"

Are you kidding? Depp is hot. Smoking hot.


117 posted on 06/30/2005 7:35:04 AM PDT by Chiapet (Cthulhu for President: Why vote for a lesser evil?)
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To: graycamel

'"Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" I believe is the correct name of the story. I liked that as a kid, also "Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator", though I don't remember it much. My fave was "James and the Giant Peach"."

Did you ever read "Danny, Champion of the World?" That was one of my absolute favorite Dahl books when I was a kid.


118 posted on 06/30/2005 7:36:18 AM PDT by Chiapet (Cthulhu for President: Why vote for a lesser evil?)
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To: Chiapet

Try "Boy." One of his adult books.


119 posted on 06/30/2005 7:37:11 AM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: durasell
By the way, I'm shocked that nobody has jumped on Dahl for being a Satanist, since he did write The Witches.

Give them time.... they don't know what all to be outraged about yet ;~D

120 posted on 06/30/2005 7:38:46 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: longfellow

Never Mind.......He did suck as Donnie Brasco, and the book was 100 x's better than the movie.


121 posted on 06/30/2005 7:39:05 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: HairOfTheDog

Witches was directed by Nick Roeg who did
Performance,
Don't Look Now
The Man Who Fell to Earth.

Well worth watching.


122 posted on 06/30/2005 7:41:13 AM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: durasell

No, I do not. But I am 47 years old and have seen hundreds of movies in my life. I know what I like and I also know certain directors and such. Case in point - just about any movie with Kris Kristofferson sucks. That has been my general opinion of his acting ability so I generally do not see anything that he is in. Sometimes I make exceptions - I saw Mel Gibson's Payback and he was okay in that but still wooden. So some are like that. However, if I find out about a particular individuals religious and moral views, and it does not agree with mine, I do not see the movie or buy the music. Simple as that. And I do not feel I have been deprived of anything because I missed it.


123 posted on 06/30/2005 7:41:15 AM PDT by 7thson (I think it takes a big dog to weigh a hundred pounds!)
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To: 7thson

Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid
Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia
Semi-Tough

All with Kris Kristofferson


124 posted on 06/30/2005 7:44:45 AM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: elc

The point is that you are an American and that Depp thinks you are a dumb puppy.

But you're a star-struck little fool with no pride, so take the pain, little girl. Your hero doesn't like you.


125 posted on 06/30/2005 7:49:02 AM PDT by Vision Thing (Hillary is a mad cow.)
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To: Vision Thing

He's no hero of mine, although he is a good actor. I don't hero worship. Whether or not he's thinks I'm dumb doesn't bother me. He's entitled to his opinion, even if it's wrong.

Many times I think a lot of Americans are really dumb. Sometimes it just shocks me things people in this country do. So I guess that would make my anti-American?

Oh, and if you read the article in which he made the comments you'd realize that he was referring to the government, not the people.

But, he way to sink right down into the childish name calling. How old are you? 12?


126 posted on 06/30/2005 7:55:24 AM PDT by elc
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To: Vision Thing

"The point is that you are an American and that Depp thinks you are a dumb puppy.

But you're a star-struck little fool with no pride, so take the pain, little girl. Your hero doesn't like you."

Wow, I see we're riding the hyperbole train today. I would hazard a guess that Depp has no feelings about the person you are posting to one way or another. I would further guess that the person you are posting to is neither "star-struck" nor lacking in pride. Depp is an actor. He's made some pretty good flicks. What he has to say about things outside of his dayjob is pretty much irrelevant.


127 posted on 06/30/2005 7:59:22 AM PDT by Chiapet (Cthulhu for President: Why vote for a lesser evil?)
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To: elc

You wouldn't be so charitable to Depp if he came to your house and set a paper bag filled with dog crap on fire on your front steps, would you?

I bet you wouldn't defend this millionaire actor if he egged your new car, then soaped up the windows.

What if he snuck into your yard at night and painted your dog orange?

You wouldn't think he was so great then, would you?


128 posted on 06/30/2005 7:59:58 AM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: elc
Quit asking questions. You apparently are smarter than everyone here and should know everything.

If you can't figure out my age, I guess you are what you yourself would call just another dumb American. :-)
129 posted on 06/30/2005 8:01:33 AM PDT by Vision Thing (Hillary is a mad cow.)
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To: Chiapet
What he has to say about things outside of his dayjob is pretty much irrelevant.

I'm supposing that you do not make a living as a Free Republic commentator, so we can apply what you just said to everything you say here: It's irrelevant. :-)

130 posted on 06/30/2005 8:05:11 AM PDT by Vision Thing (Hillary is a mad cow.)
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To: Mamzelle

I love Gene in "The Producers" and "The Frisco Kid," and "Young Frankenstein" of course.


131 posted on 06/30/2005 8:08:45 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: Mamzelle

The guy is simply hot.

Ever seen "Start The Revolution Without Me"?
Even as the foppish Phillipe, he was all man.

[I had *such* a thing for him when I was a teenager]...;))


132 posted on 06/30/2005 8:09:22 AM PDT by Salamander (We're pain, we're steel, a plot of knives. We're Transmaniacon MC!)
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To: Mamzelle

I am a big fan of Wilder's as well. One of my favorite movies of his is Frisco Kid with Harrison Ford...from 'back in the day' (late seventies)....about a Polish rabbi being sent to the Jewish community in San Francisco in the 1800s.


(singsong): "Come here little chickie chickie chickie...I don't want to HURT you, I just want to EAT you..."


133 posted on 06/30/2005 8:10:21 AM PDT by didi
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To: elc
What bugged me the MOST as to what Depp said was THIS:

""My daughter is four, my boy is one. I'd like them to see America as a toy, a broken toy. Investigate it a little, check it out, get this feeling and then get out," said the star of the off-beat films "Edward Scissorhands" and "Dead Man."

If that's the way he feels about this country, then he and the movies he makes don't deserve my support - financially or otherwise.

What was pretty obvious at the time of this Stern interview was that Depp backed WAY off of his anti-American comments only after he was apparently warned (probably by his agent) that the movie would be hurt at the box office.

134 posted on 06/30/2005 8:10:30 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Vision Thing

"I'm supposing that you do not make a living as a Free Republic commentator, so we can apply what you just said to everything you say here: It's irrelevant. :-)"

Sure, if that's how you feel. But it hardly appears to be the same situation. This is a discussion board, specifically for the purpose of, well, discussion.

My point is that Depp is an actor. My "contact" with him is limited to watching him in movies. I don't pay attention to what he (or any other entertainment figure) says about anything not involving entertainment. Consequently, I don't understand why people get all riled up about it.


135 posted on 06/30/2005 8:11:52 AM PDT by Chiapet (Cthulhu for President: Why vote for a lesser evil?)
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To: Houmatt

I'll second that.

["there can be only Won-ka"?]....LOL!


136 posted on 06/30/2005 8:12:08 AM PDT by Salamander (We're pain, we're steel, a plot of knives. We're Transmaniacon MC!)
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To: durasell
Never saw the first two. Thought Semi-Tough sucked. One of Burt's worst pictures.

Also see - Convoy

Heaven's Gate

Big Top Pee Wee

Besides, why does it bother you what I see or why I see it? If you think I am wrong, then just move along. Don't bother posting to me why you think I should change.

137 posted on 06/30/2005 8:13:45 AM PDT by 7thson (I think it takes a big dog to weigh a hundred pounds!)
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To: didi
"I just want to make you kosher!"

I loved the scene where he thought he'd found refuge with some orthodox Jews in Pennsylvania...hats and beards...and it turned out they were Amish!

I just found Scarecrow on Netflix!

138 posted on 06/30/2005 8:14:05 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: didi

Not to mention his hysterical performance in 'Blazing Saddles' as "The Waco Kid".


139 posted on 06/30/2005 8:14:32 AM PDT by Salamander (We're pain, we're steel, a plot of knives. We're Transmaniacon MC!)
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To: Jon Alvarez
He denied saying that, and declared his love for America.

I for one think he is a brilliant actor, and would never boycott his films.

140 posted on 06/30/2005 8:15:48 AM PDT by veronica (The clowns are now in meltdown mode. LOL...)
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To: Chiapet
Apparantly you have an emotional problem against those who want to defend themselves against enemies. Otherwise, you wouldn't feel compelled to make posts against us. It's too bad you feel that way. Your so emoitional. :-)
141 posted on 06/30/2005 8:17:10 AM PDT by Vision Thing (Hillary is a mad cow.)
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To: longfellow

I thought he was great in that movie.


142 posted on 06/30/2005 8:17:42 AM PDT by veronica (The clowns are now in meltdown mode. LOL...)
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To: 7thson

I always kind of liked KK -- he's had an interesting life and probably a lot of fun. Maybe too much fun.

People get to pick and choose what they want. Hey, this is America. The thing that fascinates me is the idea of avoiding movies because of the political beliefs or personal life of actors. Actors, as a group, tend to be deeply flawed individuals. Happy, well-adjusted people don't go into acting. Happy people sell insurance, open small businesses and raise families.


143 posted on 06/30/2005 8:19:08 AM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: Vision Thing

"Apparantly you have an emotional problem against those who want to defend themselves against enemies. Otherwise, you wouldn't feel compelled to make posts against us. It's too bad you feel that way. Your so emoitional. :-)"

Are you sure you meant to post this to me? You should either take your meds, or learn to distinguish between reading posts and listening to the voices in your head...


144 posted on 06/30/2005 8:24:47 AM PDT by Chiapet (Cthulhu for President: Why vote for a lesser evil?)
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To: veronica

He never "denied" saying that - as usual for the apologists, what he did say was that his words were misconstrued. The quotes were from an interview he did with Stern, a German magazine (see the story I linked above). Of course, I'm sure Depp originally thought nobody in this country would pay attention to anti-American comments he made over in Europe, but he backpedalled big time afterwards.


145 posted on 06/30/2005 8:31:26 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: graycamel
I know the water tower you're talking about.



I passed it and took a picture of it heading down to Atlanta last October.
146 posted on 06/30/2005 8:32:20 AM PDT by justt bloomin
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To: All

I thought Depp was pretty good both in Blow and POTC, but I definitely have no desire to see Wonka.


147 posted on 06/30/2005 8:34:27 AM PDT by justt bloomin
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To: GulfWar1Vet
But him as Willie Wonka, I don't think so. Besides, I am biased. Gene Wilder is Willie Wonka.

Yeah, it is so ingrained in me too that I'll always see Gene Wilder as Willie Wonka. Call me weird, but the best Batman to me and he will always be Batman is Adam West from the 1966-68 TV show although out of the new Batmans (Batmen?), I like Michael Keaton the best.
148 posted on 06/30/2005 8:35:29 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (Lutheran, Conservative, Neo-Victorian/Edwardian, Michael Savage in '08! - DeCAFTA-nate CAFTA!)
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To: Jon Alvarez
The trailer for this movie absolutely creeped me out. Reminded me of Pee Wee Herman.

There's something twisted about 99% of kids' movies these days. Even though they pretend to be bright and happy, there are often dark undertones. I think I believe it when I hear that many of the people involved in kids' movies are gay.

And what is it with people who honor people because they are good "actors" even though they hate their politics or lifestyle? Is being a good actor an honorable thing?

149 posted on 06/30/2005 8:43:49 AM PDT by what's up
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To: what's up
And what is it with people who honor people because they are good "actors" even though they hate their politics or lifestyle? Is being a good actor an honorable thing?

They may be paid studio flaks who are paid to monitor this site and counter the anti-hollywood bias that we exhibit here in the great Free Republic.

150 posted on 06/30/2005 8:46:30 AM PDT by Vision Thing (Hillary is a mad cow.)
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