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Does Johnny Depp Deserve YOUR Money?
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Posted on 06/30/2005 4:15:25 AM PDT by Jon Alvarez

Boycott Alert: Charlie and the Chocolate Factory

Release Date: July 15, 2005
Starring: Johnny Depp

"America is dumb, it's like a dumb puppy that has big teeth that can bite and hurt you, aggressive."

--Johnny Depp, in Berlin, Germany, 2003


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KEYWORDS: antiamerican; boycott; chocolatefactory; french; hollyweird; hollywood; johnnydepp; liberal
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Besides, based on the very dark trailers, do we really need a remake of the loveable classic featuring a much kinder Willy Wonka as played by Gene Wilder?

Please spread the word!

1 posted on 06/30/2005 4:15:25 AM PDT by Jon Alvarez
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

anti-American alert


2 posted on 06/30/2005 4:18:48 AM PDT by Jon Alvarez
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To: Jon Alvarez

He doesn't need my money for Willy Wonka, because NO ONE can top Gene Wilder, but he'll get some for the sequel to Pirates of the Caribbean.


3 posted on 06/30/2005 4:20:34 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: Jon Alvarez

Also from the trailers doesn't Depp look like Michael Jackson in the movie?


4 posted on 06/30/2005 4:22:01 AM PDT by Cool Multiservice Soldier (Newer screen name. but same attitude, same service, same political incorrectness since 1999.)
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To: Jon Alvarez

Wonka was a very dark book. Dahl was a good writer, but somewhat dark by today's standards.


5 posted on 06/30/2005 4:23:13 AM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: Jon Alvarez
He got some of it for Finding Neverland, and he'll no doubt get some more of it in some future movie. But not for this one, I can never get that Ooompa Looompa song out of my head.
6 posted on 06/30/2005 4:23:26 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: nina0113

Why does everyone like him in the Pirates of the C? He played it like a flaming homosexual....

Everytime I saw him flounce I was distracted from the film story.


7 posted on 06/30/2005 4:23:49 AM PDT by mlmr (CHICKIE-POO!)
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To: Jon Alvarez
Never saw the original. Think Depp is a very convincing actor with a wide range. I also have a 2 lb. hammer that has more brains than he.
8 posted on 06/30/2005 4:25:51 AM PDT by Roccus (The collective has started.)
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To: mlmr

Who in the hell is Johnny Depp?


9 posted on 06/30/2005 4:28:43 AM PDT by daddypatriot
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To: Jon Alvarez

Does anyone know if here in in character here, or is this his normal look?

;-)

10 posted on 06/30/2005 4:29:18 AM PDT by SIDENET ("You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred")
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To: mlmr
He was trying to imitate Keith Richards
11 posted on 06/30/2005 4:30:13 AM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: Non-Sequitur

You will live in happiness too,
Like the Oompa Loompas doompity do!


12 posted on 06/30/2005 4:30:22 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: SIDENET

Wouldn't touch this with a barge pole. Anti-American or not.


13 posted on 06/30/2005 4:31:00 AM PDT by KateatRFM
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To: mlmr

He played it like the original meaning of the word "gay." PotC's the only thing I've ever seen him in that I liked.


14 posted on 06/30/2005 4:32:39 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: mlmr

p.s.

Richards is playing Jack Sparrow's father in the sequel...


15 posted on 06/30/2005 4:34:06 AM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: Jon Alvarez

He doesn't "deserve" my money. But I'd say he's earned it by past performances. His movies are usually good and odds are this one is good as well. He can have his opinion and howl at the moon if he wants.


16 posted on 06/30/2005 4:34:31 AM PDT by SpringheelJack
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To: Jon Alvarez

I don't know that Wilder was very accurate to the books, or whether Depp is either. As for anti-American's in Hollywood if you go ignoring all the work done by liberals there your movie viewing will be scant. Depp is a talented actor, if a poor patriot, and poor evaluator of global politics. Still 50% of America roughly voted for John Kerry beleiving he would help the lower class while knowing he was a treasonist bastard and mega mega rich guy. So maybe that's the part of America Depp was calling dumb. If anything describes liberals it's happy puppy dumbness combined with uninstigated aggression.


17 posted on 06/30/2005 4:36:36 AM PDT by kharaku (G3 (http://www.cobolsoundsystem.com/mp3s/unreleased/evewasanape.mp3))
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To: nina0113

(singing) Doompity do!

18 posted on 06/30/2005 4:37:08 AM PDT by SIDENET ("You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred")
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To: Non-Sequitur

"But not for this one, I can never get that Ooompa Looompa song out of my head."

I think that for this one they left out the songs. From what I understand Roald Dahl's widow had ultimate creative control, and the movie will be much more true to the book than the Gene Wilder film.


19 posted on 06/30/2005 4:37:31 AM PDT by Chiapet (Cthulhu for President: Why vote for a lesser evil?)
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To: nina0113
You will live in happiness too...Like the Oompa Loompas doompity do!

Thanks. I really needed that.

20 posted on 06/30/2005 4:38:13 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Jon Alvarez
Did we really even need the original film with Gene Wilder? No.

Fear not, I won't be seeing this one. To make matters worse, Depp's made up to look like Michael Jackson with the ghostly skin and apparently lipstick. Creepy!

21 posted on 06/30/2005 4:38:21 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Remind Liberal Cowards Why America Freed Iraq: http://massgraves.info/)
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To: durasell
Wonka was a very dark book.

I didn't care for it as a child; I remember having to read it sometime around third grade.

These days they're probably still working on Curious George at that grade level.

23 posted on 06/30/2005 4:40:09 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Remind Liberal Cowards Why America Freed Iraq: http://massgraves.info/)
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To: Cool Multiservice Soldier

"Also from the trailers doesn't Depp look like Michael Jackson in the movie?"

I saw one promo shot of Depp wearing big, round white sunglasses...I think that they were trying to make him look more like Willy Wonka did in the illustrations from Dahl's book. I'm actually looking forward to this movie. I only wish they'd make a film version of the follow-up book, "Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator."


24 posted on 06/30/2005 4:40:34 AM PDT by Chiapet (Cthulhu for President: Why vote for a lesser evil?)
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To: newzjunkey

Probably Dahl's best book was Boy, which isn't a kid's book. The title comes from his mother's way of addressing him. She called him, simply, "Boy."

Also, remember, James and the Giant Peach was directed by Tim Burton, a very dark director.


25 posted on 06/30/2005 4:42:41 AM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: mlmr
Why does everyone like him in the Pirates of the C? He played it like a flaming homosexual....

He seems to be playing Wonka as a flaming gay as well, judging from the hair-do, lipstick, etc

Pass

26 posted on 06/30/2005 4:42:53 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (When peace stands for surrender, fear, loss of dignity and freedom, it is no longer peace.)
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To: Jon Alvarez

Loved him in Ninth Gate and Sleepy Hollow.</p>


27 posted on 06/30/2005 4:46:07 AM PDT by biblewonk (If you don't get the bible, how can you be a Christian?)
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To: Jon Alvarez
I, too, will pass on seeing this.

I liked Depp in Neverland. That was good.

But him as Willie Wonka, I don't think so. Besides, I am biased. Gene Wilder is Willie Wonka.

28 posted on 06/30/2005 4:48:22 AM PDT by GulfWar1Vet ("If you are ashamed to stand by your colors, you had better seek another flag." ~ Author unknown)
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To: nina0113

The Pirates of the Carribean was a twit fag movie. Depp sounded like he had something in his throat that wasn't his! It was a waste of time and money - like most of the Homosexual promo movies, e.g. Alexander!! What a joke and International Joke!!!


29 posted on 06/30/2005 4:54:05 AM PDT by 26lemoncharlie ('Cuntas haereses tu sola interemisti in universo mundo!')
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To: mlmr

Depp is a good actor, but he definitely recycles characters. Actually, I think he based his Capt Jack Sparrow character on Hunter S. Thompson (who he played in "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas"). If you watch those two movies, the character movements are very similar--both appear to move as if they're always under the influence (of course, they probably were). Despite this, "Pirates of the Carribean" was probably the best live Disney movie ever.

As for Chocolate Factory, yes the trailers did remind me of Michael Jackson, but I doubt that was by design. Unfortunately, from now on, any feminine-looking man that hangs with boys will be compared to Michael.


30 posted on 06/30/2005 4:54:12 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: rbg81

Again, he based Jack Sparrow on Keith Richards. Then he talked Richards into playing Jack Sparrow's father in the sequel.


31 posted on 06/30/2005 4:55:47 AM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: Non-Sequitur

You started it! All you had to do was type the words "Oompa Loompa" and it gave me an earworm. I'm actually going to have to look up the lyrics so I can sing it all the way through, then maybe it'll go away.


32 posted on 06/30/2005 4:56:21 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: Jon Alvarez
Regarding seeing Depp - to each their own. I will not see him in any movie. Which brings me to a different subject.

I have been hearing a lot of discussion concerning the falling revenues of films for this year. Many people give various reasons - DVD's, high ticket prices, high prices for snacks, bad movies, etc. What no one seems to want to say is is it because of the actors and actresses themselves and what they say.

According to the National Association of Theater Owners - http://www.natoonline.org/statisticstickets.htm - the average price for a ticket is 6.21. Bewitched opens at 20.1 million. That's a little over 3 million people who went and saw it. This past weekend, Batman Begins took in 27.6 million. That's only slighly over 4 million and 400 thousand people - and how many of them were repeaters like I was this weekend? Now granted, the stars of these two films have not bad mouthed America - as far as I know - yet how many have done so in recent years? Sean Penn, Tim Robbins, Tom Cruise, Johnny Depp, Susan Sarandon, George Clooney, Woody Allen, etc. Now, how many people voted for George Bush in the last election? Over 61 million people. You cannot run a business when you insult the customer base! Batman Begins has the "fiance" of Tom Cruise in it. How many people say "I'm not giving my money to a bunch of Scientologists?" The American public are not going to the movies because they are tired of supporting spoiled brats who bad-mouth the very country that made them famous. That is my opinion.

33 posted on 06/30/2005 4:57:33 AM PDT by 7thson (I think it takes a big dog to weigh a hundred pounds!)
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To: durasell

"Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" I believe is the correct name of the story. I liked that as a kid, also "Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator", though I don't remember it much. My fave was "James and the Giant Peach". I once saw a water tower in South Carolina and it reminded me of that story.


34 posted on 06/30/2005 4:58:00 AM PDT by graycamel
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To: graycamel

Oh, I forgot to mention, the water tower in SC is shaped like a peach.


35 posted on 06/30/2005 4:58:38 AM PDT by graycamel
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To: durasell

He wrote another of my favorites "James and the Giant Peach". Also very dark, but I loved it!


36 posted on 06/30/2005 4:59:30 AM PDT by EmilyGeiger
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To: graycamel

Yes, but it would have been confusing to call it by its real name.

Dahl was an interesting guy. He was RAF. Married Patricia Neal (sp?) and wrote a bunch of screenplays, usually adapting Ian Fleming books, i.e. chitty chitty bang, bang and You only live twice.


37 posted on 06/30/2005 5:00:42 AM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: Jon Alvarez

If I held a grudge against everyone that I disagreed with then I would have to move to the NW Territories and live with the polar bears and reindeer.

What really sucks is that as much as I hate Tim Robbins, I think he is an excellent actor.


38 posted on 06/30/2005 5:01:09 AM PDT by kx9088
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To: durasell

Both Keith Richards and HST were perpetually under the influence, so not surprised at the similarity. Of course, Depp never played KR in a movie.


39 posted on 06/30/2005 5:02:26 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: SpringheelJack
He can have his opinion and howl at the moon if he wants.

Exactly. I've learned that life is richer when one can seperate their entertainment from their politics.

Plus, gotta give Depp some props. He *actually* packed his bags and moved to France (unlike all those other actors who merely toss the idea around).

40 posted on 06/30/2005 5:03:10 AM PDT by Drew68 (IYAOYAS! Semper Gumby!)
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To: graycamel
My fave was "James and the Giant Peach". I once saw a water tower in South Carolina and it reminded me of that story.

You are no doubt referring to the "Big Peach" on I-85 in Gaffney, SC. We refer to it as the Big Ass to which it bears a striking resemblance. A few years back they modified the look a bit to try to stop the obvious comparisons.
41 posted on 06/30/2005 5:03:15 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: graycamel

We have a tower like that here in Clanton, AL. It also makes me think of the book!


42 posted on 06/30/2005 5:05:22 AM PDT by EmilyGeiger
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To: rbg81

Richards has been clean, at least from drugs, for years. Probably decades. Thompson never cleaned up and it showed in his writing.

Depp played Jack Sparrow "as Keith Richards." Even when filming this wasn't a secret and then he said so repeatedly in interviews in order to lure Richards into the sequel.


43 posted on 06/30/2005 5:05:26 AM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: SIDENET
Johnny Depp is a talented actor, and incredibly handsome; too good-looking for his own good. It upset me to learn that he was such a flaming, anti-American idiot, especially since he was Southern born (Kentucky).

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44 posted on 06/30/2005 5:05:45 AM PDT by sweetliberty (Never argue with a fool. People might not know the difference.)
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To: over3Owithabrain

LOL!We had the same problem with the one in Clanton. The solution? Paint a giant leaf on top.! Just looks like somebody ran out of toilet paper to me now! :)


45 posted on 06/30/2005 5:07:31 AM PDT by EmilyGeiger
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To: Jon Alvarez

I don't boycott good actors based on stupid political statements they make. But I will boycott bad actors for their bad acting. ;)


46 posted on 06/30/2005 5:08:15 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Violence never settles anything." Genghis Khan, 1162-1227)
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To: Cool Multiservice Soldier

Eeew, yes that's exactly what I thought. The white makeup and the fixed-face smile, careful, stiff body movements. Talking without lips moving....I wondered if he studied Michael Jackson as a model. I wasn't that excited to see that that was his approach...

It's a Tim Burton film. I expect a little darker, a little strange. But Roadl Dahl was a little darker, a little strange (but also gifted) for a children's author, so...I am planning to see it.

I loved Johnny Depp in Pirates of the Caribbean and think he is gifted. He does not speak about politics unless goaded. One quote he made outside one of those award shows (I think it was the Academy Awards) went something like this:

He and his paramour were standing at the roped talking to Starr Jones. She mentioned that they have a five year old daughter and Jones asked them (gushygushy) about whether their daughter would follow in their footsteps and also go into acting.

He gave her a look and asked her to repeat the question. When she did he looked at her, shaking her head, and said something like

"Oh, no. I certainly hope not. She much too intelligent to go into acting."

Chatty Ms. Jones was not expecting that response and was speechless, which was quite and accomplishment. I loved it.


47 posted on 06/30/2005 5:17:07 AM PDT by didi
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To: newzjunkey

agree...creepy nails it


48 posted on 06/30/2005 5:18:29 AM PDT by Jon Alvarez
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To: EmilyGeiger

OH, you're in Clanton! We used to drive up from Millbrook to get fresh peach ice cream and go to the Walmsrt Supercenter!

Oh, I love those peaches!


49 posted on 06/30/2005 5:21:40 AM PDT by didi
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To: Jon Alvarez

He is downright ugly, IMO. Why is he considered such a sex symbol??

His ideas are ugly too.


50 posted on 06/30/2005 5:22:48 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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