Pot icon Tommy Chong makes movie of his imprisonment

reuters.com ^ | 9 10 05 | Cameron French

[jmc813]

or they do what they do now, which is to reinterpret.

When they do that, you end up with terrible things such as the Campaign Finance Reform bill. I honestly think this will lead to Free Republic being regulated to some extent in years to come.

[Know your rights]

the third falsely assumes --> the fourth falsely assumes

[A CA Guy]

Again, start your alcohol thread.

Sounds like you are much more on the ball on that issue than your drugs.

It could be that there needs to be further restrictions regarding those that ABUSE alcohol.

You're making good sense and should get completely off the drug issue and onto your alcohol band wagon IMO.

[tacticalogic]

Got quiet again.

[Know your rights]

You dodged these points: "And the third and fifth are problems WE cause by voting for government health care and welfare ... while the fourth falsely assumes that someone has a "right" to a pool of productive employees."

[Ken H]

Here's what your LBJ Great Society constitutionalism has brought us.

"In the fifties, although blacks were still struggling for equal opportunities and were on the low end of the economic ladder, the black family was for the most part strong and stable. Two parent families were the rule, not the exception. They attended church together, had strong moral values, and did not comprise a majority of the prison population. Compare that to the present state of the black community after 40 years of Liberal Socialism. Our prisons are disproportionably black, unwed mothers and single parent families are the rule, black youths without a strong male role model other than rap stars and basketball players, roam the streets and are drawn into a culture of drugs and crime."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1483206/posts

Thank you, and your Liberal Socialst bedmates.

[A CA Guy]

#3 and #4 bears out with basic logic.

You think those on drugs haven't been while drugged up a liability?
Operating machinery on recreational drugs, are you alright or impaired?

Doesn't all these mistakes and accidents on the workplace with inferior work cost a business money and perhaps hasn't some been caused to probably close like many of the auto manufacturers? Their abuse of recreational drugs while working on the production lines are of legend in books and newspaper articles.

If you get more and more addicted and useless people, you don't think you will be using our emergency wards and welfare system to access ou treasury?

You have to have a lapse in logic to exclude my points #3 &4.

If I wanted to, I could grow that list beyond that quite a bit.

[Know your rights]

Still waiting for your reply:

maybe banning or limiting certain other sales in various places should be considered

That's not the general ban I was discussing. Do you support a general ban, since alcohol is currently causing all the problems you complain about with other drugs?

Just like illegal drugs are abusive from the first use

What is your proof for this claim, and how is alcohol use not "abusive from the first use"?

[Know your rights]

Doesn't all these mistakes and accidents on the workplace with inferior work cost a business money

So does alcoholism and lack of sleep; do you support a general ban on alcohol, and government-mandated bedtimes?

You have to have a lapse in logic to exclude my points #3 &4.

I didn't exclude them ... you dodged my response.

If I wanted to, I could grow that list beyond that quite a bit.

Feel free. Until then, you can't win a debate with arguments you haven't made.

[A CA Guy]

I don't think we should have had trillions in great society spending, I think from the poverty it caused you got a lot of the recreational drug users as a matter of fact.

I think we make people too comfortable who are on our system's services and if it were up to me they'd be living in an uncomfortable tent city with little privacy until they went out and afforded their own life. (Severely handicapped or elderly excluded of course)

I further think the unions have a monopoly in government in the government employment, docks and with teachers.
IMO they should be made to be paid no more than what is found on average in the private sector for wages or benefits. (Which would be a probably 40% cut in their salaries and pensions at least) Again, fire, police and military excluded since there is no equivalent in the private sector to do them justice.
What they have now is a taxpayer financed government lottery winner's ticket for life. That doesn't work either.

[A CA Guy]

Again, I agree that you make good points against losers who ABUSE alcohol and I am waiting for your thread about reviewing it.

Of course it has nothing to do with recreational drugs which is ABUSE the moment it is used.

[Know your rights]

[alcohol] has nothing to do with recreational drugs which is ABUSE the moment it is used.

You have yet to offer proof for either half of your claim. Until you do, it's just hot air.

[A CA Guy]

There are only a few ABUSING it and I do favor big penalties and jail for them, just as I do all Recreational Drug Users who have in possession large amounts or that deal or distribute.

The druggies smoking a little pot only get a little ticket. (which is reasonable IMO).

[PaxMacian]

Great example of the pot calling the kettle black.

[A CA Guy]

You split up what I said to make your own point.

Regular use of alcohol is beneficial and people don't get intoxicated. The alcohol is a blood thinner and purifies the food for people.

ABUSE of alcohol is the different issue.
The ABUSE of alcohol by the few is the same as ALL recreational use of drugs.

[A CA Guy]

Why, you have a view that if you were sticking a needle in your arm taking illegal drugs that Christ would be giving you a blessing (making the Sign of the Cross) over that behavior?

I DON'T THINK SO!

[Know your rights]

There are only a few ABUSING it and I do favor big penalties and jail for them

So a guy who goes home and drinks a 12-pack every night should go to jail? And you STILL haven't answered the question: "Do you support a general ban"?

[AxelPaulsenJr]

Baliff whack his pee pee.

[A CA Guy]

I agree with you that the reinterpretation stuff can be bad.

Also watering down the Constitution with 35,000 amendments so it becomes only a nice historic memory is also a problem.

It become a case of one or the other and neither makes me that thrilled at all.

[Know your rights]

Regular use of alcohol is beneficial

Government can completely ban anything that has no beneficial use? Tobacco?

and people don't get intoxicated.

Depends on the dosage, as for every drug; smoke a small amount of pot and you don't get intoxicated.