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What should we do about New Orleans?
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Posted on 09/16/2005 2:11:10 AM PDT by MNJohnnie

I have been reading quite a few threads about President Bush's speech last night. I am reading some very critical statements but not seeing much in the way of alternative ideas. So for those who don't like Bush's plan, what should we be doing instead?


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1 posted on 09/16/2005 2:11:10 AM PDT by MNJohnnie
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It was the best speech of his presidency and will go down in history as a best ever by a president. He reassured the people of the Gulf Coast that they will no longer suffer and made inroads for the GOP to heal relations with African Americans.
2 posted on 09/16/2005 2:14:32 AM PDT by IronMan04
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To: MNJohnnie

Support the President. To do otherwise is an exercise in futility in this case.


3 posted on 09/16/2005 2:19:56 AM PDT by Jaysun (Democrats: We must become more effective at fooling people.)
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To: MNJohnnie
"what should we be doing instead?"

If you are so inclined "to do something," what about DOING nothing?

4 posted on 09/16/2005 2:23:22 AM PDT by endthematrix (JOHN ROBERTS vs JOE BIDEN ................... ROBERTS wins TKO in second round!)
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If you are so inclined "to do something," what about DOING nothing?

Got any idea how much lost tax revenue "doing nothing" costs us? Got any idea how much it is costing us to take care of the evacuees every day while we "Do nothing"? Got any idea the cost of all those ag exports jammed up on the Mississippi River is costing us while we "do nothing"?

5 posted on 09/16/2005 2:29:47 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Professional Journalism the Buggy Whip makers of the 21st century)
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To: MNJohnnie

Define "we" and "us"

Reduce tax revenue
Advocate individual responsibility
Rising Ag exports are a boon to farmers

BTW, this is for arguments sake.


6 posted on 09/16/2005 2:39:43 AM PDT by endthematrix (JOHN ROBERTS vs JOE BIDEN ................... ROBERTS wins TKO in second round!)
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To: IronMan04
"made inroads for the GOP to heal relations with African Americans."

What did the GOP do to AAs, enact the civil rights act, promote Freedom, end democrat segragation, what?

7 posted on 09/16/2005 2:52:09 AM PDT by spunkets
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NOTHING can be done about New Orleans, it is the most corrupt city in the US, has trained its citizens to play the 'free give me anything and everything', the politicians are crooks, big time. Nothing will change, the food stamp lines will be longer, fighting over free housing, just pile the money in as they are going to do and it will be the same.

The Port? They could go to Houston.
8 posted on 09/16/2005 2:53:40 AM PDT by gulfcoast6
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To: MNJohnnie

[What should we do about New Orleans?]

Do not allow politicians to handle the taxpayers money lest the majority of the funds disappear and many pols become richer and fatter and more arrogant and the people suffer as usual.


9 posted on 09/16/2005 2:56:10 AM PDT by wgeorge2001 (And the Lord shall be King over all the earth;in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.)
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The Port? They could go to Houston.

How does all the barge traffic moving goods up and down the Mississippi get to the port of Houston?

10 posted on 09/16/2005 2:59:58 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Professional Journalism the Buggy Whip makers of the 21st century)
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There is a shipping canal from Baton Rouge to Houston, the two boats use it now as you would be surprised to see just how much already goes to Houston
11 posted on 09/16/2005 3:05:48 AM PDT by gulfcoast6
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To: MNJohnnie
Build the wall we need on the Mexican boarder...?

That is how this will all shake out in the end, we will not lose that city regardless of those who currently control the place.

We have defeated nature before and will do so yet again.

And no one will notice (where the money goes) hopes Nagin and the twit Governor Blankbraino.
12 posted on 09/16/2005 3:14:46 AM PDT by mmercier (a jewel of gold in a swine's snout)
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There is a shipping canal from Baton Rouge to Houston, the two boats use it now as you would be surprised to see just how much already goes to Houston

That is really useful to know. Do you happen to know it's name? Lots of "journalists" in the Upper Midwest are screaming about how the farmers are going to have to store their grain/beans/corn etc because it cannot get out at NO. Given how often I see the Dinosaur Media screw up, don't know why I took that nonsense seriously.

13 posted on 09/16/2005 3:25:34 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Professional Journalism the Buggy Whip makers of the 21st century)
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There is the Gulf Intercoastal Waterway (GIWW) that extends from FL to LA (East) then LA to TX (West)


14 posted on 09/16/2005 3:35:13 AM PDT by endthematrix (JOHN ROBERTS vs JOE BIDEN ................... ROBERTS wins TKO in second round!)
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To: MNJohnnie
It is called the Inner Coastal Canal. It is deep, can handle the traffic and, the boats from up north can go via the TN waterway to Mobile as well. True, more barges can be pushed at one time than can the ones going out west. Secondly, you would be surprised just how many tow boats drop their tow in Baton Rouge and turn around to go back north. The ships go all the way to Baton Rouge where the cargo is loaded and they just breeze by New Orleans going out to the gulf.
15 posted on 09/16/2005 3:38:14 AM PDT by gulfcoast6
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Build a state-of-the art cargo port, a small town for the workers, flood the rest and abandon New Orleans. Let them replicate the French Quarter in Vegas.

Re-building a city ina hole surrounded by water is just dumb. More insane than building it there in the first place.

It's 25 feet below the water line. 25 FEET! Would you build a house inside a 25 foot deep swimming pool surounded by water? Some dolts would if they could get the stupid federal gov't to fund it then provide them with flood insurance.

* NOTE - The movers and shakers in Louisiana are praising the president this AM. Which means that the people that run the most corrupt state in the country are well on their way to stealing huges amounts of US Treasury dollars from the taxpayers.

16 posted on 09/16/2005 4:50:38 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (If fire fighters fight fire and crime fighters fight crime what do freedom fighters fight?)
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Vision, Motivation, Goals, Capitalism...........yep I like it.


17 posted on 09/16/2005 4:54:22 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Polls = Proof that when the MSM want your opinion they will give it to you.)
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The estimate is up to 200 Billion smackeroos.
That is roughly $714 per man, woman and child in the US.
And thats including non taxpayers. When I'm asked to give to Katrina I say I'm already giving and will be continuing to give to Katrina til the day I die.
Flood the damned city and turn it into a scuba divers tourist attraction.
18 posted on 09/16/2005 5:01:35 AM PDT by Brainhose (THINK OF THE KITTENS!)
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To: isthisnickcool

RE: your #16: I happen to totally agree with you.


19 posted on 09/16/2005 5:05:53 AM PDT by RightOnline
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The day before yesterday Congress passed on a voice vote to allow FEMA to "borrow" money directly from the Treasury to pay for flood insurance claims. Which means that the taxpayer directly subsidizes flood insurance no matter who or where the taxpayer is. So, an Eskimo that has no flood insurance but pays income taxes is paying to rebuild buildings in New Orleans. This technique allows the federal government to funnel taxpayers dollars from the Treasury to FEMA then to people that have flood insurance. Off the books. And that means that the Fedral Flood Insurance Program which sells all the flood insurance in America (commerical insures won't, it's a mega loser) isn't and never has been financially sound. IE: The premiums for flood insurance for properties in New Orleans are artificially low so that flood insurance is affordable and people are able to get loans to build in a hole surrounded by water.

Besides the subsidized flood insurance FEMA will also come in to New Orleans and offer loans at very low interest rates. And the loans are for just about anything the applicant can conjure up. Even SBA loans. All, of course, 100% backed by the american taxpayer. In the event of default who gets the bill? all of us.

$200 Billion? That's a low number gang. I've seen all of the things above first hand after floods in Houston. But on a small scale. On the scale of disaster (man made) in New Orleans it will be HILARIOUS to watch the crooks there fleece us, the American taxpayer. George Bush has given a blank check to a place that has the most crooks in the country. You will have the Herman K. Bebe types coming out of the woodwork in Louisiana to grab as much cash as they can.

Watch carefully as the mayor of New Orleans and other Democrats literally beg people to come back to New Orleans so they can get warm bodies to come in and take all this sweet sweet sweet federal cash George Bush is giving away.

SUCKERS!

20 posted on 09/16/2005 6:08:18 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (If fire fighters fight fire and crime fighters fight crime what do freedom fighters fight?)
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