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Boy found dead with toy weapon
Edmonton Sun ^ | Nov 15, 2005 | BROOKES MERRITT

Posted on 11/15/2005 7:25:37 PM PST by proud_yank

An Edmonton family is grieving the loss of their middle child today, after the 10-year-old boy was found dead yesterday morning in the family's north-end home.

EMS Supt. Wes Bogdane said emergency crews found the boy with a pair of toy nunchuks wrapped around his neck. Nunchuks are a martial arts weapon, made up of two sticks joined by a short length of rope or chain.

Paramedics responded to 12720 48 St. shortly after 7:30 a.m. yesterday, and said Christopher White was dead when they got there.

The medical examiner's office is investigating the circumstances of the death, and a cause has yet to be determined, said spokesman Ron Jacobs.

Police have ruled out foul play, and say it appears Chris may have died as the result of an accident.

The White family declined comment yesterday, but a neighbour said Chris was active and full of energy.

"He was involved in his school and he loved martial arts," said Doug Lunden, who lives down the street from the Whites.

"He just won a silver medal in a martial arts competition."

Lunden expressed grief for the family, and hoped Chris's two surviving sisters, one older and one younger, could help his father cope with the loss of his son.

"They've got those two girls and they've had support all day," Lunden said.

Another neighbour, who asked not to be named, was shocked to hear the news of Chris's death.

"He was only 10. I just can't imagine it. How horrible," she said. "My prayers are with them."

Crisis counsellors were offering support to White's Grade 5 classmates yesterday at Father Leo Green School, and a letter reporting the boy's death was sent home to parents.

The report of toy nunchuks wrapped around the boy's throat raised eyebrows in the local martial arts community.

Nunchuks - the real kind - are a prohibited weapon in Canada, said Edmonton Police Insp. Dennis Pysyk.

Craig Stanley, a seventh-degree tae kwon-do master and one of Canada's top martial arts performers, said weapons training is uncommon in martial arts - especially for young children.

"It's normally reserved for kung fu training," said Stanley, who runs the Phoenix Tae Kwon-Do club in St. Albert.

"Taekwondo means 'the way of the hand and foot,' and karate uses open-hand techniques."

But Stanley said some martial arts clubs do train with weapons - especially when it draws in customers.

"It's usually instructors who need to bring in more students, because weapons are attractive."

Hong Park Tae Kwon-Do College instructor Patrick Gallagher, 20, says his club trains with foam-wrapped nunchuks.

"Usually the chain isn't long enough to wrap around somebody's neck," he said. "I've never heard of anybody strangling themselves with a nunchuk before."

Dr. Louis Francescutti, an injury prevention advocate, said he's never heard of such a tragedy, but that "injuries are the leading cause of death in kids."


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: accidentaldeath; banglist; martialarts; nunchuks; weapon
Nunchuks - the real kind - are a prohibited weapon in Canada, said Edmonton Police Insp. Dennis Pysyk.

Nice to see those regulations at work! Maybe a 'nunchuk registry' would have worked better to prevent such an accident?

1 posted on 11/15/2005 7:25:39 PM PST by proud_yank
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To: proud_yank

nunchuk control NOW!


2 posted on 11/15/2005 7:28:23 PM PST by DogBarkTree
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To: proud_yank

I've never wrapped a nunchuck chain around my neck... but I HAVE whacked myself in the head a few times.


3 posted on 11/15/2005 7:28:29 PM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: proud_yank
But Stanley said some martial arts clubs do train with weapons - especially when it draws in customers.

So did the school this kid trained at use weapons? With 10 year olds? Or was this something he was inspired to do by TV? Oh wait, what kids see on TV has no effect on them... so we are told.

4 posted on 11/15/2005 7:31:05 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: proud_yank

I'm trying to picture how this could happen. Couldn't he have just unwrapped it from his neck?


5 posted on 11/15/2005 7:31:17 PM PST by saquin
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To: proud_yank

Clearly his style of kung fu was not very good.


6 posted on 11/15/2005 7:31:30 PM PST by RichInOC (...oops, did I say that out loud?)
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To: clee1

7 posted on 11/15/2005 7:32:04 PM PST by al baby (Father of the beeber)
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To: RichInOC
"Clearly his style of kung fu was not very good."

Or someone else's was...
8 posted on 11/15/2005 7:32:27 PM PST by decal (Mother Nature and Real Life are conservatives; the Progs have never figured this out.)
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To: proud_yank
"Police have ruled out foul play, and say it appears Chris may have died as the result of an accident."

Not sure how they ruled out foul play. I can't imagine how someone could strangle their self with toy numchucks.

9 posted on 11/15/2005 7:32:35 PM PST by GBA (I believe Congressman Weldon! MSM do your job.)
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To: decal

Hmmmmmm...quite possibly.


10 posted on 11/15/2005 7:32:59 PM PST by RichInOC (*GONNNNNNNNNNG!!!!*)
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To: clee1
Tragic story but I'd be digging a little deeper for all the facts. Seems unlikely that one could choke oneself to death by direct pressure. You would pass out, pressure would be released, and you would regain consciousness soon.

To do it by accident? Doesn't seem possible unless the chain were long enough to lock around your neck.
11 posted on 11/15/2005 7:34:33 PM PST by keat (Who the f___ is I. Lewis Libby?)
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To: proud_yank

I always get a kick out of some guy who can't even spell or pronounce something writing about regulating it.


12 posted on 11/15/2005 7:35:14 PM PST by D.P.Roberts
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To: proud_yank
I used to do karate and the chain on nunchucks I used were way too small to go around any neck. The chain could barely wrap around your hand.

Something smells funky.
13 posted on 11/15/2005 7:35:26 PM PST by varyouga (Reformed Kerry voter ( I know, I'm a frickin' idiot))
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To: proud_yank

Wonder how they were able to rule out foul play?


14 posted on 11/15/2005 7:36:19 PM PST by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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To: proud_yank

I almost choked to death on a toy whistle when I was a kid. I have dedicated the rest of my life to the banning of toy whistles. (Jus' kiddin' about the second part.)


15 posted on 11/15/2005 7:37:06 PM PST by gg188
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To: proud_yank
Lunden expressed grief for the family, and hoped Chris's two surviving sisters, one older and one younger, could help his father cope with the loss of his son.

Um, shouldn't the father be helping his daughters cope, especially since one of them is younger than 10?

16 posted on 11/15/2005 7:38:46 PM PST by eyespysomething (When a soldier dies, a protester gloats, a family cries, an Iraqi votes.)
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To: clee1

My first year at the Renaissance Festival, I was armed with a quarterstaff - big old six-foot-long dymondwood thing that you could NOT break.

At times, I amused myself by twirling it over my head like a baton.

Then once, I dropped it squah on my head.

OUCH.


17 posted on 11/15/2005 7:39:20 PM PST by Xenalyte ("Every day should be the best day ever!" -Frank DellaPenna, Cast in Bronze)
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To: D.P.Roberts

What did I misspell?


18 posted on 11/15/2005 7:40:41 PM PST by proud_yank (Socialism is economic oppression)
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To: RichInOC

If this kid knew kung fu, and was skilled with chucks, I can't imagine how he could have choked himself to death, esp. if these are not the real variety. Something smells here...


19 posted on 11/15/2005 7:42:46 PM PST by rintense
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To: GBA

And apparently within a day.Seems to be a little quick to come to a conclusion.


20 posted on 11/15/2005 7:48:01 PM PST by carlr
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To: gg188

Hey, we all need a cause. Right? /s


21 posted on 11/15/2005 7:48:58 PM PST by proud_yank (Socialism is economic oppression)
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To: proud_yank

IF NUNCHUKS WERE OUTLAWED...


22 posted on 11/15/2005 7:49:02 PM PST by theDentist (The Dems have put all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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To: saquin

That's what I thought.


23 posted on 11/15/2005 7:54:26 PM PST by planekT
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To: saquin

Nunchuck chains or rope (on a toy?) are rarely long enough to wrap around anyone's neck. As you said, why couldn't they have just been unwrapped? I wonder if he hit his windpipe really hard or something.


24 posted on 11/15/2005 7:59:48 PM PST by kenth (Come back here... so that I may brain thee!)
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To: al baby
LOL!
25 posted on 11/15/2005 8:16:39 PM PST by apackof2 (There are 2 theories to arguing with a woman... neither works. Will Rogers)
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To: varyouga

I've been able to use dual nunchaku since I was about seven years old. Bruce Lee favored the ones with the longer chain/string. I favor the shorter ones.

Where were the parents?!


26 posted on 11/15/2005 8:53:14 PM PST by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: kenth; varyouga
There's the possibility. Some are made with longer chains/cords.

I'm guessing that he tried to bring them around his neck from one hand to the other too fast and didn't catch the other stick. It may have slammed into his head or cut off the circulation to his brain (if the chain/cord was long enough to encircle the throat area), and he passed out. I've had some get wrapped around my palm and the wood ends (holding the connecting material) would lock together briefly.

Too bad for one so young, too.


Bruce Lee with (I think) nine-inch nunchaku in, "The Return of the Dragon."
27 posted on 11/15/2005 9:01:29 PM PST by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: keat

Perhaps he was playing at self strangulation to get a rush. This is becoming a phenomenom in the grade school set.


28 posted on 11/16/2005 11:15:28 AM PST by Valpal1 (Crush jihadists, drive collaborators before you, hear the lamentations of their media. Allahu FUBAR!)
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